Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] btrfs-progs: device: add remove missing-all

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On 2017/10/13 14:27, Duncan wrote:
> Misono, Tomohiro posted on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 11:18:50 +0900 as excerpted:
> 
>> Add 'btrfs remove missing-all' to remove all the missing devices at once
>> for improving usability.
>>
>> Example:
>>  sudo mkfs.btrfs -f -d raid1 /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb2 /dev/sdb3 /dev/sdb4
>>  sudo wipefs -a /dev/sdb1 /dev/sdb3
>>  sudo mount -o degraded /dev/sdb2 /mnt
>>  sudo btrfs filesystem show /mnt
>>  sudo btrfs device remove missing-all /mnt
>>  sudo btrfs filesystem show /mnt
> 
> 
> There's a reason remove missing-all hasn't yet been implemented.
> 
> Note that the above would be very unlikely to work once a filesystem has 
> been used in any significant way, because raid1 and raid10 are explicitly 
> chunk pairs, *NOT* duplicated N times across N devices.  So with two 
> devices missing, chances are that both copies of some chunks will be 
> missing as well, so the filesystem would no longer be mountable degraded-
> writable, only degraded-readonly, in which case device remove won't work 
> at all because the filesystem is readonly.
> 
> In fact, until the recent per-chunk check patches went in, it was 
> impossible to mount-writable a raid1 missing two devices at all, because 
> the safeguards simply assumed some chunks would be entirely missing.
> 
> The only case in which more than a single device missing is likely to be 
> mountable degraded-writable (so device remove will work at all) is raid6, 
> tho with recent patches there's narrow cases in which it /might/ be 
> doable with raid1 as well.
> 
> Now you may still wish to implement remove missing-all for raid6 mode and 
> for the unusual corner-case raid1/raid10 in which it might work, but the 
> documentation should be pretty clear that save for raid6 it can't be 
> expected to work in most cases.
> 
> Given that, I think remove missing-all hasn't been implemented as it 
> simply hasn't been considered to be worth the bother for the narrow use-
> cases in which it will actually work.

Thanks for the comments.

I thought this is useful, but agree that this is for rare case and might be
confusing. So, I will drop 3rd patch and just resend 1st/2nd again.

Regards,
Tomohiro

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