On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Martin Steigerwald <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 4. Februar 2016, 09:57:54 CET schrieb Moviuro: >> > Although personally I like to let all the backward compatibility >> > things go hell, but that's definitely not how things work. :( >> > >> > 2) End-user taste. >> > Some end-users like such info as feedback of success. >> > Of course other users like it act as silent as possible. >> >> I'm pretty sure that's... not the case. Almost everything on GNU/Linux >> is silent. cd(1) is silent, cp(1) is silent, rm(1)... >> What they all have though is a -v|--verbose switch. > > The various mkfs commands are not. Not one of them I know of. Additionally > each one gives a different output. > > pvcreate, vgcreate, lvcreate and as well as the remove commands and probably > other LVM commands are not (no one could argue, that from their ideas they > come from HP/UX, but thats a Unix as well): > > merkaba:~> lvcreate -L 1G -n bla sata > Logical volume "bla" created. > > And I think, not testing right now, that also mdadm is not silent on creating > a softraid. > > So while I agree with you that regular shell commands (coreutils, util-linux) > are silent on success usually this does not appear to be the case with storage > related commands in GNU/Linux. To be perfectly honnest, my inspiration comes from zfs(8) on FreeBSD. I'm pretty sure there is some inspiration we can find in its behavior. (see https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?zfs(8) ) The output has both a human-readable form (using column(1)) and a machine-parseable form (e.g. zfs get -o value used /zroot). The output is limited to what is truly useful, etc. I have not had any previous experience with any other FS or softraid solutions, so I'm not familiar with those commands you gave, Martin. Also, making silence a default option helps spare some typing: >/dev/null : 11 char (force silence) -v : 3 char (force verbose) (it's also far more readable) I should start working on said guidelines.md later today or this weekend. > I don´t have a clear oppinion about it other than I´d like to see some > standard too. coreutils / util-linux both them to have some kind of standard, > although not necessarily the same standard I bet. And I am not sure whether it > is documented somewhere. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
