Austin S. Hemmelgarn posted on Tue, 19 Jan 2016 07:28:44 -0500 as excerpted: > There's a reason I don't use KDE... > (Well, a couple actually, the indexing getting pulled in is only part of > it, I also dislike the all-or-nothing packaging (everything seems to > depend on everything else), and having to update the whole thing in > lock-step; somewhat ironically, GNOME has the same issues these days, so > I don't use that either). Rather OT for the list, but... while I'm still using a kde desktop, it's pretty stripped down. As I said, until I installed plasma5, I not only had nepomuk/baloo turned off, but I had them stripped out at build-time as well. And I expect to get there again. I'm already package.providing udisks as a plasma5 dep as it's runtime-only, and expect to strip out polkit similarly as I've seen indications it's runtime-only, as well as baloo again eventually, and networkmanager. Late in the kde3 cycle I was actually contemplating getting rid of the last few gtk2 apps I had and switching to qt/kde only. But over the course of kde4, mostly at the beginning when kde4 was still so broken but kde3 wasn't supported any more, but later (~4.6) for konqueror when it became apparent its devs considered it little more than a toy, and kmail when it jumped the akonadi shark, I switched off of kde for nearly everything except the desktop itself, superkaramba (which is being dropped tho plasma supposedly supports it, tho I could never get that to work properly with my theme back before I decided to give up and just use superkaramba, so I'm not sure whether I can get plasma to work there or not and I might have to switch to gkrellm or some such), a few games which I can give up or there's alternatives for, and dolphin and gwenview as file and image managers, with gimv (GImageViewer) already installed as an alternative for the latter and pretty much any graphic file manager workable as a dolphin replacement since I do much of my file management in the terminal using either CLI or the ncurses-based mc anyway. So the situation has nearly reversed from that of the late kde3 cycle, and now I'd find it much easier to dump kde than gtk2, as it's primarily a relatively lite kde desktop that's my not immediately replaceable kde tools now. And I'm sure I could find a workable alternative to it too, if I had too. Enlightenment has always been on my list to try, and a (likely heavily customized by the time I'm done with it) qt-based lxde is on my short list as well. So we'll see how plasma5 develops. Meanwhile, there's the x11/wayland switch coming up, which could yet rock the Linux desktop environment landscape pretty wildly, changing it as we know it and putting entirely different environments at the forefront a few years from now. But other than gnome, which isn't an option for me due to their "our way is the only correct way" attitude, and kde, I simply don't know enough about what other environments are doing with it to have the foggiest, at this point, particularly if I don't choose to stay with kde/plasma as my desktop thru that transition, which is a possibility. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-btrfs" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
