Re: More memory more jitters?

[Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@xxxxxxxxx>]

On 2015-11-14 09:11, CHENG Yuk-Pong, Daniel  wrote:
> Hi List,
>
>
> I have read the Gotcha[1] page:
>
>     Files with a lot of random writes can become heavily fragmented
> (10000+ extents) causing trashing on HDDs and excessive multi-second
> spikes of CPU load on systems with an SSD or **large amount a RAM**.
>
> Why could large amount of memory worsen the problem?
>
> If **too much** memory is a problem, is it possible to limit the
> memory btrfs use?
As Duncan already replied, your issue is probably with the kernel's 
ancient defaults for write-back buffering.  It defaults to waiting for 
10% of system RAM to be pages that need written to disk before forcing 
anything to be flushed.  This worked fine when you had systems where 
256M was a lot of RAM, but is absolutely inane when you get above about 
4G (the actual point at which it becomes a problem is highly dependent 
on your storage hardware however).  I find that on most single disk 
systems with a fast disk, you start to get slowdowns when trying to 
cache more than about 256M for writeback.
> Background info:
>
> I am running a heavy-write database server with 96GB ram. In the worse
> case it cause multi minutes of high cpu loads. Systemd keeping kill
> and restarting services, and old job don't die because they stuck in
> uninterruptable wait... etc.
>
> Tried with nodatacow, but it seems only affect new file. It is not an
> subvolume option either...
This is a known limitation, although NOCOW is still something that 
should be used for database files.  The trick to get it set on an 
existing file is to create a new, empty file, set the attribute on that, 
then copy the existing file into the new one, then rename the new one 
over the old one.

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