Re: counting fragments takes more time than defragmenting

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 09:09:00PM +0200, Patrik Lundquist wrote:
> On 14 July 2015 at 20:41, Hugo Mills <hugo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 01:57:07PM +0200, Patrik Lundquist wrote:
> >> On 24 June 2015 at 12:46, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Regardless of whether 1 or huge -t means maximum defrag, however, the
> >> > nominal data chunk size of 1 GiB means that 30 GiB file you mentioned
> >> > should be considered ideally defragged at 31 extents.  This is a
> >> > departure from ext4, which AFAIK in theory has no extent upper limit, so
> >> > should be able to do that 30 GiB file in a single extent.
> >> >
> >> > But btrfs or ext4, 31 extents ideal or a single extent ideal, 150 extents
> >> > still indicates at least some remaining fragmentation.
> >>
> >> So I converted the VMware VMDK file to a VirtualBox VDI file:
> >>
> >> -rw------- 1 plu plu 28845539328 jul 13 13:36 Windows7-disk1.vmdk
> >> -rw------- 1 plu plu 28993126400 jul 13 14:04 Windows7.vdi
> >>
> >> $ filefrag Windows7.vdi
> >> Windows7.vdi: 15 extents found
> >>
> >> $ btrfs filesystem defragment -t 3g Windows7.vdi
> >> $ filefrag Windows7.vdi
> >> Windows7.vdi: 24 extents found
> >>
> >> How can it be less than 28 extents with a chunk size of 1 GiB?
> >
> >    I _think_ the fragment size will be limited by the block group
> > size. This is not the same as the chunk size for some RAID levels --
> > for example, RAID-0, a block group can be anything from 2 to n chunks
> > (across the same number of devices), where each chunk is 1 GiB, so
> > potentially you could have arbitrary-sized block groups. The same
> > would apply to RAID-10, -5 and -6.
> >
> >    (Note, I haven't verified this, but it makes sense based on what I
> > know of the internal data structures).
> 
> It's a raid1 filesystem, so the block group ought to be the same size
> as the chunk, right?

   Yes.

> A 2GiB block group would suffice to explain it though.

   Not with RAID-1 -- I'd expect the block group size to be 1 GiB.

   Hugo.

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