Re: Btrfs and integration with GNU ++

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On 2015-05-18 05:22, Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk wrote:
For btrfs to be accepted as a primary filesystem in major distros, I'd
think it should integrate with existing tools.

Well, fortunately or unfortunately, btrfs is already being accepted as a
primary fs in major distros.

Interesting - which ones is it that's doing this?

While I don't know of any that use it by _default_ yet, I do know that it is an easy to use option on most of the big non-comercial distros already (Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, etc.), and a couple (Gentoo, Arch, and possibly Slackware) have had the option to use it since it went mainline (although that is just a side effect of the installation procedures, not any kind of active attempt at support).
Currently, df seems to show good data, while du doesn't.

There has been some work put into what df returns to make it so, while
similar work to du has not yet been released, and in fact only quite
recently (within the last month) has been proposed on the list.

Maturity of the filesystem, again...

hehe

Lastly - I just did a small test on a 6 drive RAID-6, turned on
compression and started cat /proc/zero > testfile - let this run until
the filesize was 500GB and stopped it. Made some other test files and a
copy of these with --reflink=auto just for kicks. rm test* and waited.
While waiting, did a 'echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger' and fsck started on
bootup and took a minute or so to complete. Since the filesystem is
rather small (6x8GB VDEVs on top of ZFS with SSD caching, kvm as
hypervisor), I wonder how long this fsck job would take if it were on a
system with, say, 6 4TB drives. RHEL/CentOS7 just moved to XFS to allow
for system crashes without this hour-long fsck job, and I somewhat doubt
that btrfs will be the chosen one if it requires the same amount of time
as of ext4.

As Qu mentions, on-mount fsck is not needed on btrfs, as assuming no bugs
(filesystem maturity, again), due to btrfs' COW nature, commits are
atomic and the filesystem is self-consistent at every commit.  Commits
occur every 30 seconds by default (it's a mount option), and there's only
a very limited journal of fsynced transactions kept since the last
commit, to be sure they are recoverable even when the filesystem crashes
between commits, that automatically replays on mount.  So no on-mount fsck
needed.

I didn't run it. Some part of the Jessie startup did, and 1 minute for just 6x8GB (not TB) seems a lot…

To me, this sounds like some sort of systemd issue, I have heard of it having issues occasionally with long delays when handling btrfs filesystems with more than 4 devices.

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