Re: snapshot space use

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On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Hugo Mills <hugo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 03:01:55PM -0700, Justin Maggard wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > You can use btrfs quota feature to do it.
>> > Like this:
>> >
>> > # btrfs quota enable <MNT_POINT>
>> > # btrfs quota rescan -w <MNT_POINT>
>> > # btrfs qgroup show -prce <MNT_POINT>
>> > qgroupid rfer    excl    max_rfer max_excl parent  child
>> > -------- ----    ----    -------- -------- ------  -----
>> > 0/5      2248704 12288   0        0        ---     ---
>> > 0/256    5509120 3272704 0        0        ---     ---
>> >
>> >
>> > rfer is all the space the subvolume takes.
>> > excl is the exclusive space the subvolume takes.
>> >
>>
>> Yes, but this isn't as useful as it sounds if you have more than one
>> snapshot.  Because if a file is included in at least two snapshots,
>> it's no longer exclusive.  So AFAICT even with btrfs qgroups, you
>> still cannot answer the question "How much space are my snapshots
>> using?" for a given subvolume, unless you have only one snapshot.  But
>> I'd be happy to be informed otherwise. :-)
>
>    There are basically two useful answers to that question, depending
> on how the question is specified, exactly:
>
> 1) How much space would I use if I copied this subvolume to a
>    different filesystem?
>
> 2) How much space would I free up if I deleted this subvolume?
>
>    Part 1 is the rfer answer. Part 2 is the excl answer.
>
>    Which of these do you mean by "How much space are my snapshots
> using?". The question as posed is highly ambiguous, and needs
> considerably more precision before it can be answered.
>
>    If you can pose the question more precisely, you might wish to ask
> one of those questions about N subvolumes as a group -- this is
> where(*) you would define a qgroup covering the subvols you're
> interested in, and then use the above interface to ask the question
> for the group of subvols as a whole.

To be more precise, let's consider an example, where we have a
subvolume named "stuff"; and two snapshots of "stuff", "snap1" and
"snap2".  So the question I'm posing is:

How much space would I free up if I were to remove my snapshots,
"snap1" and "snap2", but keep "stuff" intact?

I can't use the rfer value from snap1 and snap2, because in general
most of that space is shared by "stuff" and would not be freed.  I
could look at the excl column for snap1 and snap2 and add them up; but
if they shared extents with each other (and not with "stuff"), those
extents are no longer exclusive, and thus not accounted for.  So I
would have to delete either snap1 or snap2 in order to answer my
question using qgroups.

I can't think of a way to define a qgroup that would be able to answer
my question, although I'm admittedly no expert in qgroups either.

-Justin

>
>    Hugo.
>
> (*) I'm not an expert in qgroups. I may have the idea completely
> wrong, but I think this is the right kind of approach.
>
>
>> -Justin
>>
>> > You can also refer to 'btrfs-quota'(8) and 'btrfs-qgroup'(8),
>> > Also the following wiki can help:
>> > https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Quota_support
>> >
>> > NOTE: quota is not so stable and has some problem, but should give
>> > you enough info.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Qu
>> >
>> >> # zfs list -t snapshot
>> >> NAME                        USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
>> >> hetz0/be0-mail@2015-03-10  2.88G      -   387G  -
>> >> hetz0/be0-mail@2015-03-11  1.12G      -   388G  -
>> >> hetz0/be0-mail@2015-03-12  1.11G      -   388G  -
>> >> hetz0/be0-mail@2015-03-13  1.19G      -   388G  -
>> >> hetz0/be0-mail@2015-03-14  1.02G      -   388G  -
>> >> hetz0/be0-mail@2015-03-15   989M      -   386G  -
>> >>
>> >> Is there any way to do something similar to the above ZFS command?  It's
>> >> handy
>> >> to know which snapshots are taking up the most space, especially when
>> >> multiple
>> >> subvols are being snapshotted.
>> >>
>
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