Re: Btrfs offline deduplication

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On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 03:18:46PM -0400, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
> > Why does this have to be kernel side? There's userspace software already to
> > dedupe that can be run on a regular basis. Exporting checksums is a
> > differnet story (you can do that via ioctl) but running the dedupe software
> > itself inside the kernel is exactly what we want to avoid by having the
> > dedupe ioctl in the first place.
> > 	--Mark
> > 
> > --
> > Mark Fasheh
> > 
> Based on the same logic however, we don't need scrub to be done kernel
> side, as it wouldn't take but one more ioctl to be able to tell it which
> block out of a set to treat as valid.  I'm not saying that things need
> to be done in the kernel, but duperemove doesn't use the ioctl interface
> even if it exists, and bedup is buggy as hell (unless it's improved
> greatly in the last two weeks), and neither of them is at all efficient.

Duperemove absolutely *does* use the ioctl interface for offline dedupe.


>  I do understand that this isn't something that is computationally
> simple (especially on x86 with it's defficiency of registers), but rsync
> does almost the same thing for data transmission over the network, and
> it does so seemingly much more efficiently than either option available
> at the moment.

None of the problems you mentioned get solved by pushing the entirety of
offline deduplication into the kernel. If anything, it's more dangerous tod
o that as bugs tend to be far more critical when we hit them from kernel.

Regarding duperemove there's a series to fix up some performance issues that
I'm working on importing at the moment.
	--Mark

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