At 08:55 AM 3/5/2004 -0800, you wrote:
Dominique Boin wrote:
Does the benefit of changing the license, supercede the disadvantages of
exclusion of 4.4.0 in several major Linux and BSD UNIX distributors?
What are those disadvantages? If you read the XFree86 mission statement,
( http://www.xfree86.org/mission.html ) you will find nowhere does it state
a goal of being included in as many distros as possible, and in fact states
that they have a goal of avoiding influences from distributors and other
non-technical issues. In fact, you could almost argue from the last
sentence of the primary goal section there, that it is an advantage to the
XFree86 mission to not be included since it saves them from those distributors
trying to influence the project.
that's an interesting point Alan. i think though, xf86 is basically
agreeing with sun Microsystems,
a company i trust you are familiar with, in this case. if you want sun
software you go to sun.
there is no middle-man, no hack if you will. you are basically
distribution point for your own
the scenario goes: i want sun, i gotta go to http://www.sun.com, to get
what i want
out of what they offer i.e. Java, Solaris, sun pro compiler, etc. so i
get my stuff, some of it
gratis, some pay-for, and then i go on my merry way. if _i don't want_
sun i don't go there. period. i take my marbles and go play elsewhere. i
could go elsewhere
and get something else, right? that is implicitly what sun is saying;
and i'm cool with that, are you cool with that, Alan?
now i think, and i don't know for sure, but it seems that xf86 is saying
the same as you. hey
dude, if you want xf86 get it from the source, don't go to some
middle-man. don't let changes we did not
authorize go in , things that we have not tested, we have not
validated. don't come to xf86 space
and say my _distro package_ version_of_xf86 doesn't do what you say. come
again? yeah and
how is xf86 supposed to know what your _distro_ has done? what are we
supposed to go over
to distro_10001 and counting and check and find out? that's an incredible
request man; you can't be serious.
instead xf86 is saying if _you think_ your distro is giving you a value
stay there. bother them; go hang with them. if instead you think we
(xf86 just to clarify)
can do it better, well then we at xf86 is here and waiting. i think
personally that this makes the distros
have to do better and give more to compete. this license issue is bogus.
i personally think that xf86 going this way does make sense. i think that
they are finally
waking up and smelling the coffee or Java, if you prefer;-). distros come
and go and
some crazies are still in the dark ages shipping 4.1 as a stable.
talk to me in relevance man. i think the whole distro scene is ancient
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