Re: [XFree86] Announcement: Modification to the base XFree86(TM) license.
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On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 03:22:14PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >David Dawes wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 14, 2004 at 02:08:24PM -0500, Harold L Hunt II wrote: >> >>>mark kandianis wrote: >>> >>>>At 03:36 PM 2/14/2004 +0000, Chris Howells wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>>On Friday 13 February 2004 20:50, David Dawes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>This begs a couple of questions that I have yet to see answered: >>>>> >>>>>OK... so if you don't fully understand the consequences of changing the >>>>>license, I'm somewhat fascinated and intrigued as to why it has _already_ >>>>>been changed, rather than, say, making a proposal and letting people >>>>>comment >>>>>on it. >>>>> >>>>>- -- >>>>>Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, howells@xxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>it wasn't changed until last night after a two-week notice. >>>>i think you are a little late to the discussion, but it's good >>>>to clear these things up anyhow. >>> >>>Actually, you are late to the discussion. In fact, why don't you just >>>not participate in this discussion since you have clearly not been >>>following the events as they have unfolded. The license change was >>>first checked into CVS on 2003/12/12, not last night: >> >> >> Try 1998/09/06, or earlier... >> >> Licences of this type were in the repository years ago. The easiest >> example to quote is FreeType 1.x, which dates from before the >> FreeType project dual-licensed their work. Even after the >> dual-licensing of FreeType, XFree86 distributes it under the FTL, >> advertising clause and all. The alternative would be for us to >> distribute it under the GPL, and as everyone knows, that is undeniably >> contrary to XFree86 licensing policy. >> >> Therefore if XFree86 licensing policy disallowed licences with an >> advertising clause and disallowed GPL'd code, we could never have >> distributed FreeType, or distributed code that relied on FreeType. >> >> There is other stuff too. The fact that you appear to have been >> unaware until recently of the types of licences considered acceptable >> for code included in XFree86 is not evidence of a recent change. >> It is only evidence of your ignorance in this matter. > >Your Red Herring defenses are getting old David. > >You never presented this is a discovery of some questionable licenses in >the source tree. I assert that the licensing change has, from the >start, been an action initiated by you due to your being pissed off that >your lack of leadership and communication skills have lead others to >conclude that the XFree86 project is unlikely to continue being relevant >in the future. In other words, you kicked everyone out of your sandbox >and now you are crying because they have created their own sandbox to >play in and they are having a lot more fun than your bitter self. Your >response to this was to try to force these others to call their sandbox >"The Sandbox Project, based in part off of work from the XFree86 >Project". On the other hand, you seem to be pushing harder to get >XFree86 approved as a trademark; your intentions here can only be >assumed to be dubious given your past behavior. > >The truth is David, I don't care about XFree86 nor about the license >change. I care more about the fact that your behavior over the past two >years indicates to me that you are likely to be depressed and in need of >professional help. It is sad that you cannot ask for help in order to >benefit yourself and a project that you have dedicated a lot of time to. > >Until you get better, > >Harold Thank you for your concern. Also, thank you for helping to bring the issue of attribution to the surface of everyone's consciousness. <http://www.mail-archive.com/devel%40xfree86.org/msg04557.html> David _______________________________________________ Forum mailing list Forum@xxxxxxxxxxx http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/forum
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