Re: Discussing issues

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:22:42 -0400 G A Economou wrote:
>Subject: Re:  Discussing issues
>On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 13:11:38 -0400, Havoc Pennington <> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2003 at 12:46:57PM -0400, David Wexelblat wrote:
>>> If Keith had just resigned from the Core Team, gone off and done some 
>>> stuff,
>>> told some people about it, etc, the free market would have taken care of
>>> itself. I believe this is the point David, Alan, Mark, a couple of 
>>> others,
>>> have tried to make.
>>> This whole governance thing is a smokescreen, IMHO.
>> So I'd personally like to move past who did what and who is the jerk,
>> and simply ask how we are going to ship an X server in the next year
>> or so and then regularly after that, which both contains new
>> innovations/APIs/features and has good drivers and
>> stability/release-process. What is our X implementation going forward,
>> and how do we make it good. How do we coordinate all the interests
>> here in a way that creates critical mass and a powerful development
>> engine.
>> The reason Keith matters in all this is that there is this long list
>> of code next to his name. In practice, if he's gone then so is this
>> long list of important contributions.
>> Now I'm sure someone is going to follow up and say well that's Keith's
>> fault, but here is the thing: I don't care whose fault it is, I just
>> don't want to be screwed by having to choose between the drivers and
>> the features.
>> Can't someone in the room be the bigger man so to speak, stand up and
>> fix the problem.
>> And then as a side note, why don't we address the relationship
>> while we're at it, and just get X cleaned up and fixed as a whole.
>And you Havoc have this power to speak for  To make things happen
>there?  I mean, you guys can talk all day and make divisions all you want,
>but unless someone on the other side can bring it home, this whole 
>is meaningless.

Speaking for myself, also an active member of X.Org, let me assure you that 
I am paying very close attention to this debate. I want to know how X.Org 
can be effective going forward.


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