On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:38:36 -0800, David Liontooth
<liontooth@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The people over at LinuxTV are generously offering to set up a wiki for us,
> but they need a team of people willing to make the first contributions and
> to be responsible for keeping an eye on the site and keeping it free for
> wiki spam.
>
> Right off the bat, I suggest we plan to require contributors to log in
> to edit
> pages, as is currently the case in the LinuxTV (DVB) wiki, to keep wiki spam
> at bay. Login is fast and easy and shouldn't deter a genuine contributor.
> Johannes, is that cool?
>
> So Kevin, thank you for nudging everyone towards realizing this by
> offering to set up a wiki. I think this is a better long-term solution --
> linuxtv is sure to stay around, and v4l with them. Given that, would you be
> willing to be part of the team keeping an eye on it? For your first article,
> it would be useful if you would write up your experience so far and
> what needs to be done still to get your card to work.
>
> Jerome, what about you? Can you commit to writing one article to get us
> going, and to help keep an eye on the site?
>
> Alex, you obviously have lots of experience with this -- would you consider
> picking one topic near and dear to your heart -- perhaps about the
> potential for integrating v4l and dvb -- and write it up as a starting
> piece?
Yeah, I'd be willing to add some content. I dunno about v4l or dvb
integration though... probably something more like "how to add support
for a new card" or information about chipset combos like blackbird or
empress, etc.
Alex
>
> Jay, even though you've been a 'listener' -- I thought the word was
> 'lurker' ;-)
> would you be up to helping out on this project?
>
> And Verbavolant, who suggested we go where we're now going, are you
> willing to chip in on a moderately sustained basis? In the long run, as John
> Maynard Keynes said, we'll all be dead, but by the time we tire of helping
> out others will step in.
>
> I'm mentioning these guys just because they created the momentum to
> actually do a wiki. We need everyone involved. First of all we need
> someone to take care of the aesthetics -- which logo / image should we use
> for the site? Second, we need someone to create a links page to existing
> resources -- anyone willing to take that on? That involves assessing
> whether the resource is maintained and permanent, and if not, consider
> copying the content over to the wiki, while giving the source.
>
> We also need someone to craft the introductory materials, modeled on
> the other two wikis or similar ones (or not -- there's creative license
> here).
>
> And we need someone to set up a table of content that structures the
> whole site. Michel Bardiaux, would you be willing to do that? This is
> pretty critical to get us off to a good start; I'd be happy to work with
> you on this.
>
> A primary task is to create an inventory of existing drivers and driver
> projects, so if you're involved in one of those, take steps to feature your
> work prominently on the wiki. Some driver projects, such as ivtv, now
> have their own wikis, so all we need is a summary and some links.
>
> And for everyone, we need brief and instructive recipes for getting
> a card operational. This is the core purpose of the wiki. Here's a chance
> for every one of us who has struggled with this to put that knowledge
> to good use.
>
> Finally, for the oldtimers, and in particular for Gerd Knorr, who has been
> maintaining and developing the bulk of the core code for several years now,
> please use this wiki to put down what you know before you walk into the
> sunset (preferably long before).
>
> There's a pretty sizeable community here, so if everyone would
> please make a note to write up a brief piece about their area of
> expertise, we'll soon be mentioned in the Encyclopedia Brittannia
> -- and we know this isn't a joke anymore.
>
> This needn't be a lot of work for any one of us. In fact the whole point of
> the wiki is to save us all time -- to be able to have newcomers go to
> the wiki
> and find the answer to their excruciatingly, mind-numbingly boring and yet
> endlessly idiosyncratic questions, and not scream in desperation on the
> list, complaining about how cold and heartless we all are.
>
> In brief, please respond to this message and tell Johannes that we want
> to do this, that there's sufficient commitment to move it along and make
> it worthwhile. Frankly shouldn't take us long to be better off than where
> we are now.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
> BTW I run a growing capture project (as a side act) at a major university
> in the City of Angels, but I'm pretty much a newbie to all this stuff. I
> just
> think the lack of a v4l wiki is a major weak point in free software, and I
> suffered from not getting help when I really needed it.
>
>
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