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On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:54:31AM -0700, Wayne Davison wrote: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 08:29:13PM -0400, William Denton wrote: > > What's the best way to get trn decoding [yEnc] files? > > Trn doesn't support yEnc directly because it was a poorly designed > format and I was kinda hoping it would go away (however, that doesn't > look to be very likely these days). Poorly designed compared to what? - uuencoding doesn't contain crc checksums and/or "end of article" marker and has to blindly rely on the Subject: line to stitch multi-part binaries back together in the right order. - MIME/base64 I'd describe as a fscking mess where multi-part binaries are concerned. It looks like about every author of a newsreader has read a _different_ MIME spec... Fortunately multi-part MIME/base64 seems to have disappeared off the face of usenet... :) I'm not saying yEnc is good [1], but IMHO it's the least bad of the 3... [1] good would be a redesigned usenet where encoding and splitting of binaries would no longer be needed and where binaries would only be cached to/'in the direction of' where they are actually being downloaded instead of to all newsservers. Usenet is totally out of controll at 600+Gbyte/day... > Since you have an external yEnc decoder installed, you could try one of > these commands and see if it works on the selected articles: > > :e|ydecode > :s|ydecode That will only work if ydecode has a 'dumb' "blindly decode and append an article" mode... If you've got a 4-article multi-part binary, the above does: ydecode article1 ydecode article2 ydecode article3 ydecode article4 instead of ydecode article1 article2 article3 article4 IMHO, that part of trn isn't very compatible with external multi-part binary decoders, which greatly prefer the latter... > Personally, I've switched over to using "ubh" for extracting binaries -- > since that's it's sole purpose in life, it does a good job of it. I > haven't tried the 3.x version (it puts the article data into a mySQL > database), but the 2.x version works well for me (grab the ubh script > from the web-browsable CVS to get the latest fixes). I combine it with > uudeview (a fast decoder) for extra speed. > > http://ubh.sourceforge.net/ > > One of its advantages over trn is that it caches the news headers, so if > the group is large, there is less delay "re-entering" the group. I use a mix of trn4 + later decoding with uudeview and 'nget -K' plus uudeview, but that's partly because I want to retain some info from the article headers for later processing and partly because uudeview gets confused by some yEnc files if the "-s" option isn't used and nget uses uudeview's uulib for decoding, resulting in me not trusting uulib to function 100% OK on yEnc files... ;) Marco van Loon (slightly paranoid w.r.t. these things...) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0