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Re: PRACK: Does non-200 response cease re-transmission ofreliable 18x?




Hi,

>
>
> wang.libo@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> >  > >  > >>>Is the flows below valid according to recent arguments?
> >  > >  > >>>
> >  > >  > >>>   UAC                  UAS
> >  > >  > >>>    |----invite(SDP)--->|
> >  > >  > >>>    |<--- 183(SDP)------|
> >  > >  > >>>    |-----prack(SDP)--->|
> >  > >  > >>>    |<--- 200(SDP)------|
> >  > >  > >>>
> >  > >  > >>>       flow 1
>
> >  > > Does it means,the first flow is allowed?
> >  >
> >  > Yes.
> >  > > I think, the restriction the first reliable response must contain
> > SDP if
> >  > > the INVITE without SDP
> >  > > should restrict the called user.
> >  >
> >  > That's the way it is now.
> >
> >
> > Sure, I means, the first reliable response from the called user must
> > contain
> > NORMAL SESSION SDP in order to communication,but AS(application server)
> > shouldn't be restricted by this rule as AS may only concern about
> > early-session
> > for pronunciation. Or, the AS is also restricted if early-session plays
> > the same
> > role as normal session.
>
> The AS is an artifact of IMS, it has no role in any of the ietf
> standards. It has been expected that components playing various roles
> such as this are bound by normal distinctions between UAC, UAS, Proxy, etc.
>
> IMO it isn't a good idea to introduce a new kind of UA (or proxy) that
> is bound by different rules.
>

I think we don't need to introduce a new kind of (UA).
And obeying the existed rules, AS can work well at almost all the use-cases.
As UA and AS both exist in a basic call,we just need to make few modifications if needed.



> You might consider the "early-session" mechanism specified by RFC 3959.
> But I have never heard of it being implemented, so it may not be useful
> to you.
>

Yes.
Early-session has already been implemented in own system. And I think it do
have some advantage, as both early-session and session can be carried by a message,
also,early-session solves media clip.
(P-early-media with different TO-tag is another way.)


Regards
Eric





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