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I've heard of these devices, but never seen one. As I understand it, another technique they used to keep the system proprietary was to put the code for the player on the PhotoCD itself. Even if you reverse-engineered the format, and could create valid PCD files, you couldn't make a PhotoCD that would play in the player without violating the copyright on their code. Not that anyone really cared. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > From: Carl Grohs > > Anyway, the current status is the CD/PhotoCD players mainly were given > away in contests, and I occasionally see them in pawn shops, Kodak got > CD-ROM manufacturers to make multi-session reading standard in their > drive firmware, and they reduced the licensing and open coded parts of > the PhotoCD file format, the format became well accepted in professional > circles, and the rest is history... - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.