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Re: Darkroom hazards, was Levels & Curves



Thats why Ansel only lived to be 80+.
"Artest Beware" is a lot of BS from people that don't have any background in
medicine or bio-chemistry.
The same people that felt BTFE in our gasoline would be good.
Read the book that came out after Ansel died, which was reviewed by both
Harvard and RIT.
Ron

----- Original Message -----
From: Dave King <kingphoto@mindspring.com>
To: <scan@leben.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: Darkroom hazards, was Levels & Curves


> I was taught this in art school college level photo classes 30 years ago
> too.  By cracky:)  Let's hope this isn't still being taught - ever wonder
> why so many old photographers develop Parkinson's?
>
> I haven't used my darkroom since investing in Profiler Pro and an X-Rite
> DTP-41:), but I had become somewhat chemically sensitive over the years
and
> found a book called "Artist Beware" very helpful in the design of my last
> darkroom ventilation system.  (Another book called "Over Exposure" gives
> hazard analysis for photographic chemicals specifically.  Don't know if
> either is still in print.)
>
> Using what I learned in Artist Beware, I built a shallow but wide box onto
> the wall the sink is against and the intake slot is the bottom edge of
that
> box.  This box feeds into a larger volume mixing chamber that is connected
> by standard vent pipe materials to an exterior mounted *restaurant size*
> kitchen exhaust fan (available at Grainer).  This puppy works, the slot is
> well below head level so fumes are routed away, and the pull is strong
> enough that small children and pets get sucked into the vent slot when
they
> get too close:)  The stuff they market specifically as darkroom
ventilation
> products is a pathetic, and perhaps even dangerous, joke - they don't
work.
>
> Dave
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: gary <gsellani@accesscom.com>
> To: <scan@leben.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:23 AM
> Subject: RE: Levels & Curves
>
>
> > I've seen the motorized vents and Keeble and Schucat. If you haven't
been
> to
> > the SF Bay area, that is the "bring lots of cash but we have the best"
> > camera store. It is one of the few lens rental places in the area. The
> have
> > the Jobo AT1500 there as well.
> >
> > Getting back to the darkroom, I remember in high school handling the
> prints
> > with bare hands. Even worse, one trick we learned was to rub the areas
on
> > the print you wanted to get developed a bit more because the friction
> would
> > heat up the area, which in turn speeded up development. I'm guessing
today
> > nobody puts their fingers in the chemical baths.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-scan@leben.com [mailto:owner-scan@leben.com]On Behalf Of
> > > byard pidgeon
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:38 PM
> > > To: scan@leben.com
> > > Subject: Re: Levels & Curves
> > >
> > >
> > > When you're putting in that "small darkroom", be sure you learn how to
> > > ventilate it properly so you don't poison yourself.
> > > The American Lung Association may have some info for you on this.
> > >
> > > on 12/26/2001 11:11 AM, gary at gsellani@accesscom.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > No argument that the digital manipulation is better than what
> > > you can do by
> > > > hand in a chemical process.
> > > >
> > > > That said, I have a house in design stage and will put in a
> > > small darkroom,
> > > > something I always wanted. We may reach a point in history
> > > where I am the
> > > > last guy in America doing wet photography. ;-) I notice lots of
> > > enlargers
> > > > showing up on the used market. Hmmm.....
>
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