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Thats why Ansel only lived to be 80+. "Artest Beware" is a lot of BS from people that don't have any background in medicine or bio-chemistry. The same people that felt BTFE in our gasoline would be good. Read the book that came out after Ansel died, which was reviewed by both Harvard and RIT. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave King <kingphoto@mindspring.com> To: <scan@leben.com> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 7:43 AM Subject: Darkroom hazards, was Levels & Curves > I was taught this in art school college level photo classes 30 years ago > too. By cracky:) Let's hope this isn't still being taught - ever wonder > why so many old photographers develop Parkinson's? > > I haven't used my darkroom since investing in Profiler Pro and an X-Rite > DTP-41:), but I had become somewhat chemically sensitive over the years and > found a book called "Artist Beware" very helpful in the design of my last > darkroom ventilation system. (Another book called "Over Exposure" gives > hazard analysis for photographic chemicals specifically. Don't know if > either is still in print.) > > Using what I learned in Artist Beware, I built a shallow but wide box onto > the wall the sink is against and the intake slot is the bottom edge of that > box. This box feeds into a larger volume mixing chamber that is connected > by standard vent pipe materials to an exterior mounted *restaurant size* > kitchen exhaust fan (available at Grainer). This puppy works, the slot is > well below head level so fumes are routed away, and the pull is strong > enough that small children and pets get sucked into the vent slot when they > get too close:) The stuff they market specifically as darkroom ventilation > products is a pathetic, and perhaps even dangerous, joke - they don't work. > > Dave > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: gary <gsellani@accesscom.com> > To: <scan@leben.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:23 AM > Subject: RE: Levels & Curves > > > > I've seen the motorized vents and Keeble and Schucat. If you haven't been > to > > the SF Bay area, that is the "bring lots of cash but we have the best" > > camera store. It is one of the few lens rental places in the area. The > have > > the Jobo AT1500 there as well. > > > > Getting back to the darkroom, I remember in high school handling the > prints > > with bare hands. Even worse, one trick we learned was to rub the areas on > > the print you wanted to get developed a bit more because the friction > would > > heat up the area, which in turn speeded up development. I'm guessing today > > nobody puts their fingers in the chemical baths. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-scan@leben.com [mailto:owner-scan@leben.com]On Behalf Of > > > byard pidgeon > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 5:38 PM > > > To: scan@leben.com > > > Subject: Re: Levels & Curves > > > > > > > > > When you're putting in that "small darkroom", be sure you learn how to > > > ventilate it properly so you don't poison yourself. > > > The American Lung Association may have some info for you on this. > > > > > > on 12/26/2001 11:11 AM, gary at gsellani@accesscom.com wrote: > > > > > > > No argument that the digital manipulation is better than what > > > you can do by > > > > hand in a chemical process. > > > > > > > > That said, I have a house in design stage and will put in a > > > small darkroom, > > > > something I always wanted. We may reach a point in history > > > where I am the > > > > last guy in America doing wet photography. ;-) I notice lots of > > > enlargers > > > > showing up on the used market. Hmmm..... > > - > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.
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