Thanks Ira. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ira Beckoff" <imbeck@adelphia.net> To: <scan@leben.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:05 AM Subject: Re: Archiving Scans -higher dpi better? > Try spelling it this way. > www.hamrick.com > > good luck > > Ira Beckoff > imbeck@adelphia.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Franc" <franc@oregonfast.net> > To: <scan@leben.com> > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:04 PM > Subject: Re: Archiving Scans -higher dpi better? > > > > I can not load this page or find anything about it on Google. > > Give me another hint on getting View Scan > > Sam > > At 01:18 AM 12/11/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > >Answer to Arthur: > > > > > >I currently use the HP Photosmart S-10 (SCSI), but I DO NOT use the > canned > > >software. > > >I use Hamerik's VueScan www.hamerik.com which allows tapping the full > > >resolution of the scanner. VueScan is $40 with lifetime upgrades, works > with > > >all common flatbed and film scanners both MAC and Win. > > > > > >Attached are two scans of Kodachrome slides taken 12 years ago, using a > > >Point & Shoot zoom camera. Original scans; done last week, were @ 2400 > dpi, > > >cropped & resized down for fast viewing. Also a crop @ 2400 dpi. > > >@ www.upbeat.com/pc-setup/Color/HP.html > > > > > >I have printed very good 8" x 10" prints from these scans after resizing > to > > >8 x 10 x 240 dpi. Vuescan has color correction profiles for all known > types > > >of negative and transparencies film that are applied during the scan. I > > >limit my negative scans to 5 frames per strip and rescan the 6th by > turning > > >the strip around. The software (VueScan) allows you to specify the number > of > > >frames ( and the one you want, if you desire). > > > > > >I would assume you were using the HP software that came with the scanner > to > > >get the results you described below. > > > > > >Mike Demyan > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Arthur Entlich" <artistic@ampsc.com> > > >To: <scan@leben.com> > > >Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:15 PM > > >Subject: Re: Archiving Scans -higher dpi better? > > > > > > > > > > I can't say what Chip might have been smoking, but I have a lot of > > > > experience with both the HP Photosmart S-10 (SCSI) and the second > > > > edition HP S-20 (USB) scanners, and my experience, and that of many > > > > others, varies considerably from his. > > > > > > > > I found the SCSI model to be extremely electronically noisy and likely > > > > to cause banding in shadow regions. Although the accuracy of color > was > > > > good, the resolution was not. Further, these units elicited many > > > > complaints of mechanical problems, including bad interlocking between > > > > the two main top and bottom parts, broken interlocks, and other > > > > problems. Some units suffered from greenish pixelized grids, others > had > > > > IR spatter from the IR sensor, causing random noise that looked like a > > > > fingerprint on an image. Also, neither the S-10 or 20 could accept a > > > > full 6 frame piece of film since the sixth and sometimes even the 5th > > > > could be drastically scratched. > > > > > > > > I went through several of each model before returning the final unit. > > > > The second model had better shadow results, but had worse color > accuracy. > > > > > > > > The HP photosmart scanners had their place when you had to pay nearly > > > > $1000 to get anything better, but today, the other scanners on the > > > > market change the issue. I'd suggest just about any scanner over the > HP > > > > Photosmart models, with the exception of Primescan 1800, and the 2400 > > > > dpi scanner marketed under several names in the US, Canada and > England. > > > > In particular, the Polaroid 35 EP 35mm, the Acer Scanwit, the Canon FS > > > > 2710 (NOT the 2700), and several of the older Minolta models, which > > > > include the Elite, the Dual Dimage (which had 2400 dpi (SCSI) as well) > > > > and the new Dual Dimage II, although it does suffer from some quality > > > > control issues. > > > > > > > > The HP film scanners made sense in their time due to the expense of > > > > flatbeds when they first came out, but the unit has always been a > > > > compromise, no longer required since flatbeds are so cheap. > > > > > > > > Anyway, that's may opinion, > > > > Art > > > > > > > > Chip Louie wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > > > > > > > I bought a new Polaroid Sprint Scan 4000 a few months ago and am > very > > > > happy > > > > > with the quality of the scans I've managed to pull off my chromes. > At > > > > > $450USD after the rebate it was a steal. > > > > > > > > > > Before I bought the SS 4000 I had an original SCSI version of the > HP > > > > > PhotoSmart and it was a very good film scanner and a surprisingly > > > > good small > > > > > print scanner. The film scans from the HP were very good, actually > > > > better > > > > > than the Nikon LS2000 in color response and grayscale performance > and > > > > with > > > > > care, just as sharp. Where the HP was not quite as good as the > > > > LS2000 was > > > > > in the shadows, the Nikon could get more out of dense film images > (I > > > > mostly > > > > > shoot slides), where the HP tended to show slightly higher levels > of > > > > > quantization noise. The Nikon LS2000 has the ICE feature which can > > > > be used > > > > > to remove the effects of dust in the scans but ICE make the scans > > > > look too > > > > > soft IMO. > > > > > > > > > > I have a friend who bought an LS2000 when they first came out and I > > > > got to > > > > > play with it quite a bit before making a decision on which scanner > to > > >buy > > > > > for my own use. The Nikon scanner software was awkward to use at > the > > > > time > > > > > but is probably better now. The ICE feature was very attractive > and > > >was > > > > > what first caught my eye. But in the final analysis for maximum > > >quality > > > > > scans there is just no substitute for cleaning the film before > > > > scanning and > > > > > good old fashion hand retouching in the photo editor of your > choice. I > > > > > never managed to get ICE images to look as clean as a non ICE > image, of > > > > > course the differences are slight but when you are trying to get > the > > >best > > > > > image file for output it can make a difference. > > > > > > > > > > The HP was an impressive scanner for the money, especially when you > > > > consider > > > > > the fact that at the time I bought the HP, the BEST price for a > Nikon > > > > LS2000 > > > > > was $1,500USD vs. $400 for the HP. At the time I bought the HP, a > > > > $100USD > > > > > rebate was available which brought the price of the HP down to > $300USD. > > > > > While the Nikon LS2000 is an excellent scanner, at 5 X the cost of > > > > the HP it > > > > > was not good enough. > > > > > > > > > > Some people posted that they had what may have been electrical > noise > > > > causing > > > > > interference patterns in their output files but most did not. Some > > > > returned > > > > > them and got replacements and the problem was solved. I guess I > was > > > > lucky, > > > > > I still consider the HP to be an excellent scanner for under > 2700ppi. > > > > The > > > > > HP's are now available used and sometimes refurbished for about > > > > $200USD and > > > > > are still a very good scanners for the money IMO and many others. > > > > Use the > > > > > link I posted, it has very good technical analysis of a large > number of > > > > > scanners and is very reliable from my own experience with film > > >scanners. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Chip Louie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > > > > subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. > > > > > > > > > >- > > >Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > > >subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. > > > > - > > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. 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