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On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Jef Spaleta wrote:

> On Wed, 2003-03-12 at 17:30, Ed wrote:
> 
> > My fear is that RH is going to keep encouraging Oracle and other big
> > companies to only certify products for Advanced Server, which means I'll
> > have to run Advanced Server as a desktop just to do my Oracle work. 
> > Should I pay Red Hat $800 a year just so I can run SQLPlus?  Maybe I'll
> > just switch back to Windows.
> 
> Ever stop and wonder that maybe Oracle doesn't really want to have to certify
> a moving target that releases every 6 months ,or even quicker? And maybe
> the encouragement to build a slower paced product with a longer support
> life span really is coming from outside of Red Hat....and its not just
> an evil marketing conspiracy.  In a world with finite development
> resources to support software, this doesn't seem an unreasonable
> approach to really target markets that linux is popular with:   

But Oracle was taking the issue of what they supported for both the 
client end and the server end.  Clearly what the server end runs is very 
important and a longer life cycle is good.  However the clients may be 
running on plain ordinary desktops.  We tried to get Oracle9i 
client working with RedHat 7.3 and when it didn't work we called Oracle.  
They said that even the client is only supported on Advanced Server.  
This is not a usable solution as Advanced Server is NOT a desktop 
release.  Maybe this release of Enterprise Workstation is Oracle's 
solution to this client issue.

-Connie  Sieh
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory

> 
> Give us new new new development eyecandy...the new python version came
> out a WHOLE week ago...why doesn't Red Hat roll a new release right now
> so I can have it...gotta have it....mandrake has it...why doesn't redhat
> have it...they are suuuuch posers.
>      say the download junkies needing their fix
> 
> Give us rock-solid long-lived products meant for production lifetimes
> that we can ceritify against...we want to be able to market that our
> applications running on linux server clusters will be humming along
> untouched for the next half centry in fact we are already garunteeing
> this can happen to our customers now give us a distro that we can
> actually use this way......
>      say the enterprise application vendors.
> 
> What? Red Hat is actually trying to run a profitable business model,
> while turning Linux into a credible enterprise solution, by trying to
> actually set a market value for a spectrum of support services, in a
> highly competitive market where pretty much every single one of their
> users and competitors could take most if not all of the source code for
> the software they package and provide the same functionality if Red Hat
> cannot continue to show to its customers that its worth paying for the
> support services Red Hat is offering, and at the same time offering one
> of the most open and "free" corporate linux distros aimed at the
> consumer available? It can't be done, there must be evil intent
> here.....
>   say the fanatics, who live in their communist utopias, and will never
> have to face the realities of running their own business, since in their
> world everyone lives off of hopes and dreams.
> 
> 
> -jef"out of witty remarks"spaleta
> 
> 
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