Re: [RFC 1/2] MD: raid5 trim support

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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:58:14 +0800 Shaohua Li <shli@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 4/18/12 4:26 AM, NeilBrown wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:46:03 -0700 Dan Williams<dan.j.williams@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:35 AM, Shaohua Li<shli@xxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
> >>> Discard for raid4/5/6 has limitation. If discard request size is small, we do
> >>> discard for one disk, but we need calculate parity and write parity disk.  To
> >>> correctly calculate parity, zero_after_discard must be guaranteed.
> >>
> >> I'm wondering if we could use the new bad blocks facility to mark
> >> discarded ranges so we don't necessarily need determinate data after
> >> discard.
> >>
> >> ...but I have not looked into it beyond that.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dan
> >
> > No.
> >
> > The bad blocks framework can only store a limited number of bad ranges - 512
> > in the current implementation.
> > That would not be an acceptable restriction for discarded ranges.
> >
> > You would need a bitmap of some sort if you wanted to record discarded
> > regions.
> >
> >
> This appears to remove the unnecessary resync for discarded range after 
> a crash
> or discard error, eg an enhancement. From my understanding, it can't 
> remove the
> limitation I mentioned in the patch. For raid5, we still need discard a 
> whole
> stripe (discarding one disk but writing parity disk isn't good).

It is certainly not ideal, but it is worse than not discarding at all?
And would updating some sort of bitmap be just as bad as updating the parity

How about treating a DISCARD request as a request to write a block full of
zeros, then at the lower level treat any request to write a block full of
zeros as a DISCARD request.  So when the parity becomes zero, it gets

Certainly it is best if the filesystem would discard whole stripes at a time,
and we should be sure to optimise that.  But maybe there is still room to do
something useful with small discards?


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