On Thursday, August 14, 2003, at 06:17 PM,
When you are creating learning materials, do you contribute your
changes, improvements, criticism, ideas and sources back to the
I give up.
I am quite new to Open Source so I will apologize for any naive
statements up front but I wanted to start with the above sentiment -
Don't Give Up
It seems that a great deal of the heat in the last few days has come
from people talking a bit past each other. Taking the heat/jabs out it
sounds to me like this:
JMD wants students to be able to learn using all open source tools.
I am guessing that is something Les and Jeremy don't have a
problem with provided it is one of a constellation of choices.
Les wants to feed his kids.
I am guessing that JMD doesn't have a problem with that (if it is
legal and moral, etc.)
Jeremy feels strongly that Redhat has been a good friend to the Open
Again I am guessing that JMD would agree with that if we can set
the FSEDU agenda aside for just a second.
And so on....
But to get to my point without further rambling...
One of the things that seems so great about the Open Source community
is the habit of trying to work with existing code rather to make it
better rather than starting a new project from scratch because it lacks
some feature. So my question is for JMD:
I am guessing that RedHat would be willing to offer RHCE training using
all open source (no java or Flash, etc.) if:
1) Someone paid for the development of new courses up to their
2) They made the same money that they get from the current courses
(assuming they make money - I have no affiliation with Redhat so I
can't say either way).
So rather than start something like FSEDU and reinvent the content
'wheel', why not donate your time, effort and money to convert existing
Redhat, successful courseware so that it doesn't use the offending
software and let Redhat offer that along side their Java/Flash version?
I hope this doesn't sound flippant because that is not my intent. It
is a serious question. And one to be applied to each of the
vendor/authors you are poling.
I will end with the opinion that if you recreated the existing
courseware without Java and Flash and offered it for the same amount of
money, that it wouldn't sell. And that would raise the question of how
valuable this 'right' of Free Delivery Platforms (rather than just free
Platforms - java and Flash) is to the students.
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