Re: return

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I don't mean to sound rude .. but your response ( as far as I can tell ..
and I apologize if I am missing something) has nothing to do with my
question .. at all ...

Peter

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Piszcz, Justin Michael" <justin.piszcz@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Peter Marshall" <peter.marshall@xxxxxxxxx>; "netfilter"
<netfilter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: return


I do after reading this message:

Now that I've got ipt_recent installed and running, I'd be grateful for
comments or rule samples that could work best to ameliorate syn-floods.
(The site I'm working on has been the target of moderate-to-large-sized
syn-floods for a few months now, ongoing.)

I've been using this approach:

-N syn-flood
-A syn-flood -m limit --limit 6/s --limit-burst 10 -j RETURN
-A syn-flood -j LOG --log-prefix "SYN-FLOOD: "
-A syn-flood -j DROP

-A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --syn -j syn-flood

...and, on the high-traffic site involved, have had occasions when the
machine became unreachable, the server load too high.

Someone suggested ipt_recent could handle this matter more accurately.
I found a rule on the web that someone was using, and tried that a few
minutes ago, with this approach:

-N syn-flood
-A syn-flood -j LOG --log-prefix "SYN-FLOOD: "
-A syn-flood -j DROP

-A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT

-A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --syn -m recent --hitcount 10 --update \
   --seconds 60 -j syn-flood

...but very soon _no one_ could get a server connection, with that.

My 'mental model' of how ipt_recent is working must not be correct --
at least, I don't understand why the '--limit' ruleset seems to allow
normal traffic under most conditions but the '-m recent' rule kept
normal users from getting in, just a few minutes ago.

If anyone knows what I'm missing in my understanding of this, or has a
ruleset that works well to ameliorate syn-flooding, please let me know.

Thanks kindly,

-- 

 -- Jeff --   <http://www.wellnow.com>

 "There's nothing left in the world to prove.  All that's worth doing
  is to love one another, using whatever means are available to serve."



-----Original Message-----
From: netfilter-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:netfilter-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Marshall
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 9:39 AM
To: netfilter
Subject: return

I was just wondering if anyone here uses "return" in their rules .. I
understand what it is for .. just wondering if it is efficient to use.

ex.

-A Forward -s 192.168.200.5 -o eth1 -j subchain1
-A Forward -s 192.168.200.0/24 -o eth1 -j subchain2

-A subchain1 -d 200.200.200.200 --dport 1234 -j ACCEPT
-A subchain1 -d 200.200.300.300 --dport 4321 -j ACCEPT
-A subchain1 -j RETURN

-A subchain2 .......... blah blah blah ....

Or would you just write the rules different ?

Also, I was wondering is there a way to specify multiple source ip
address ?

ex -s 192.168.200.5, 192.168.200.20 .....

Thank you,
Peter.


Peter Marshall, BCS
Network Administrator, CARIS
115 Waggoners Lane, Fredericton NB, E3B 2L4 CANADA
Phone:  (506) 458-8533 (Reception)








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