Re: make oldnoconfig fix?

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On 11/11/2013 10:55 AM, David Cohen wrote:
> On 11/11/2013 10:13 AM, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
>> David, All,
> 
> Hi Yann,
> 
>>
>> On 2013-11-11 10:11 -0800, David Cohen spake thusly:
>>> Is there a plan to fix 'make oldnoconfig' option?
>>> I currently have need to it :)
>>> I've tracked a thread fixing 'make olddefconfig' where 'oldnoconfig'
>>> option is reported as a known bug, right?
>>
>> Sorry, I don't understand what your problem is.
> 
> Maybe I assumed it was more 'known' then it actually is :)
> 
>>
>> Care to explain in details what problem you have:
>>    - what you start with
>>    - what you do
>>    - what you get
>>    - what you expected
> 
> The bug with 'oldnoconfig' is: 'make oldnoconfig' is just an alias to
> 'olddefconfig'. Any non-existent config is defined with its default
> value instead of 'N'.
> 
> I work with embedded platforms. I need to maintain a set of defconfigs
> for different products (customers some times want tailored configs, so
> creating a generic one isn't an option always).
> 
> In order to have full control of the .config generated out of
> defconfigs, I don't allow any CONFIG_ to be selected implicitly. So
> everytime a Kconfig is changed in our internal tree, we need to update
> all defconfigs either with CONFIG_... = [y|n] or # CONFIG_... is not set
> 
> If I managed to get 'make oldnoconfig' working, I could not care about
> # CONFIG_... is not set and internal and changes to defconfigs would be
> easily to understand and review.
> 
>>
>> So we can try to reproduce the issue and investigate what is wrong.
> 
> All we need to know is explained in this commit:
> 
> commit fb16d8912db5268f29706010ecafff74b971c58d
> Author: Adam Lee <adam8157@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date:   Sat Sep 1 01:05:17 2012 +0800
> 
>     kconfig: replace 'oldnoconfig' with 'olddefconfig', and keep the old
> name as an alias
> 
>     As 67d34a6a391369269a2e5dba8a5f42cc4cd50231 said, 'oldnoconfig' doesn't
>     set new symbols to 'n', but instead sets it to their default values.
> 
>     So, this patch replaces 'oldnoconfig' with 'olddefconfig', stop making
>     people confused, and keep the old name 'oldnoconfig' as an alias,
>     because people already are dependent on its behavior with the
>     counter-intuitive name.
> 
>     Signed-off-by: Adam Lee <adam8157@xxxxxxxxx>
>     Signed-off-by: Michal Marek <mmarek@xxxxxxx>
> 
> 
>>
>> Since you mention an existing thread, please add a pointer (URL) to
>> this thread in the archives (Use: http://marc.info/?l=linux-kbuild ).
> 
> This is the thread I was talking about:
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kbuild.devel/8560
> 
> Master Yoda promised to fix it when the problem gets bigger :)

Any comments here? :)

Br, David Cohen
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