- To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Enhance /dev/mem to allow read/write of arbitrary physical addresses
- From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 16:37:35 +0200
- Cc: Petr Tesarik <ptesarik@xxxxxxx>, Andrew Morton <akpm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@xxxxxxxxx>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@xxxxxxxxx>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@xxxxxxxxxx>, Paul Mundt <lethal@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Russell King <linux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Tony Luck <tony.luck@xxxxxxxxx>, x86@xxxxxxxxxx, linux-arm-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-ia64@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, linux-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Dave Jones <davej@xxxxxxxxxx>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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* Christoph Hellwig <hch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 02:58:02PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > So what was not mentioned in your series, what is *your* motivation
> > and your usecase? Enabling closed-source userspace drivers? Enabling
> > the crash utility?
>
> He stated it pretty clearly in the thread, it's the crash utility.
True. I only re-read the first patch and forgot about the resulting
discussion. Sorry Petr!
> > If the former then shame on you, if the latter then how do you
> > explain that distros appear to disable the RAM aspect of
> > /dev/mem:
> >
> > $ grep DEVMEM $(rpm -ql kernel-2.6.38-0.rc7.git2.3.fc16.x86_64 | grep config-2.6 )
> > CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM=y
> >
> > So the crash utility use-case does not work on unpatched, default
> > kernels, right?
>
> Not if you have highmem. That's why Redhat or Fedora to quote your
> example patch in the /dev/crash driver, which totally defeats the
> CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM setting. But apparently it's good enough that no
> one either noticed or at least doesn't care.
After initial modules have loaded i essentially disable crash.ko via
/proc/sys/kernel/modules_disabled so rootkits have to work a bit
harder than that.
But yeah, crash.ko is a rootkit-and-other-badness-enabler as it
stands today.
Thanks,
Ingo
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