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Re: SSD Optimizations

On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:21:30 -0500, Chris Mason <chris.mason@xxxxxxxxxx>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:49:34PM +0000, Gordan Bobic wrote:
>> I'm looking to try BTRFS on a SSD, and I would like to know what SSD
>> optimizations it applies. Is there a comprehensive list of what ssd
>> mount option does? How are the blocks and metadata arranged? Are
>> there options available comparable to ext2/ext3 to help reduce wear
>> and improve performance?
>> Specifically, on ext2 (journal means more writes, so I don't use
>> ext3 on SSDs, since fsck typically only takes a few seconds when
>> access time is < 100us), I usually apply the
>> -b 4096 -E stripe-width = (erase_block/4096)
>> parameters to mkfs in order to reduce the multiple erase cycles on
>> the same underlying block.
>> Are there similar optimizations available in BTRFS?
> All devices (raid, ssd, single spindle) tend to benefit from big chunks
> of writes going down close together on disk.  This is true for different
> reasons on each one, but it is still the easiest way to optimize writes.
> COW filesystems like btrfs are very well suited to send down lots of big
> writes because we're always reallocating things.

Doesn't this mean _more_ writes? If that's the case, then that would make
btrfs a _bad_ choice for flash based media with limite write cycles.

> For traditional storage, we also need to keep blocks from one file (or
> files in a directory) close together to reduce seeks during reads.  SSDs
> have no such restrictions, and so the mount -o ssd related options in
> btrfs focus on tossing out tradeoffs that slow down writes in hopes of
> reading faster later.
> Someone already mentioned the mount -o ssd and ssd_spread options.
> Mount -o ssd is targeted at faster SSD that is good at wear leveling and
> generally just benefits from having a bunch of data sent down close
> together.  In mount -o ssd, you might find a write pattern like this:
> block N, N+2, N+3, N+4, N+6, N+7, N+16, N+17, N+18, N+19, N+20 ...
> It's a largely contiguous chunk of writes, but there may be gaps.  Good
> ssds don't really care about the gaps, and they benefit more from the
> fact that we're preferring to reuse blocks that had once been written
> than to go off and find completely contiguous areas of the disk to
> write (which are more likely to have never been written at all).
> mount -o ssd_spread is much more strict.  You'll get N,N+2,N+3,N+4,N+5
> etc because crummy ssds really do care about the gaps.
> Now, btrfs could go off and probe for the erasure size and work very
> hard to align things to it.  As someone said, alignment of the partition
> table is very important here as well.  But for modern ssd this generally
> matters much less than just doing big ios and letting the little log
> structured squirrel inside the device figure things out.

Thanks, that's quite helpful. Can you provide any insight into alignment
of FS structures in such a way that they do not straddle erase block

> For trim, we do have mount -o discard.  It does introduce a run time
> performance hit (this varies wildly from device to device) and we're
> tuning things as discard capable devices become more common.  If anyone
> is looking for a project it would be nice to have an ioctl that triggers
> free space discards in bulk.

Are you saying that -o discard implements trim support?

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