- Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/5]add new ioctls to do metadata readahead in btrfs
- From: Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:58:55 +0800
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On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 10:46 +0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 10:34:18 +0800 Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > > > Under a harddisk based netbook with Meego, the metadata readahead
> > > > reduced about 3.5s boot time in average from total 16s.
> > >
> > > That's a respectable speedup. And it *needs* to be a good speedup,
> > > given how hacky all of this is!
> > >
> > > But then.. reducing bootup time on a laptop/desktop/server by 3.5s
> > > isn't exactly a world-shattering benefit, is it? Is it worth all the
> > > hacky code?
> > a laptop/desktop/server need read more data from hard disks, this will
> > give more bootup time saving I think, though not tested yet.
>
> Well, the whole point of the patch is to improve boot times, so the
> more boot-time testing you can do, the better that is!
each distribution uses its own readahead (data readahead) daemon, it's
time-cost to change the daemon, but I'll check if I get some data in a
desktop.
> > > It would be much more valuable if those 3.5 seconds were available to
> > > devices which really really care about bootup times, but very few of
> > > those devices use rotating disks nowadays, I expect?
> > Currently most popular netbooks are using rotating disks actually. And
> > this will benefit laptop/desktop too.
>
> But my point is that three seconds boot-time improvement for a system
> which has an uptime of days or months isn't terribly exciting.
>
> What *would* be terribly exciting is a three-second improvement for
> cameras, cellphones, etc. But they don't use spinning disks.
>
> Can we expect *any* benefit for flash-type storage devices? If so, how
> much?
There should be no benefit for high end SSD, because they have high
throughput even for random IO. For low end flash-type storage devices,
this should have a little benefit, but won't expect much. I can't test a
camera or cellphone, I can test a USB disk in a desktop if you like.
Thanks,
Shaohua
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