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>>>>> "Russ" == Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: Russ> Sam: I'm seeking clarity. Are you suggesting that the pre-WG Russ> mail list ask this question while drafting the charter, or are Russ> you suggesting that the IESG include this question in the call Russ> for external review of the charter, or both? I don't know; I haven't thought in that much detail. I'm stating as fact that there are cases where we adopt documents as part of chartering work; I've been involved in that as a BOF proponent and as an AD. I believe that it's important to consider the IPR implications then as with any other adoption. In the cases I've been aware of there has been no IPR. I suspect that if there were IPR that a WG would be much more likely to consider something as a potential starting point ((not adopted in the charter process) than as a basis (adopted in the charter process.) My personal opinion is that if we're diligent about making sure disclosures are filed prior to the review of the charter, the rest will take care of itself. I don't mind if people want more process than that, but I don't have strong opinions on what it should be. I agree with you that asking on the bof list or asking in external review would be reasonable ways to approach that.