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The article clearly states that women leave for the two reasons you mentioned, which are certainly the exact same things males deal with, but you missed a few others that the article notes, specifically and directly quoted below:
"...lack of real or perceived opportunities for advancement, and uncivil work environments where women were treated in condescending or patronizing manners. Only 25 percent of the women who left engineering did so for family reasons."
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Yoav Nir <ynir@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 30, 2012, at 10:52 PM, Mary Barnes wrote:
Here is an article that does a far better job of explaining the situation than I did:
The largest reason women leave engineering is due to the work environment and perceived lack of support from colleagues.
Interesting, but I don't really get some of the distinctions they are making. Women *are not* leaving engineering to spend time with their families, but they *are* leaving engineering because of 60-hour weeks and having to work weekends.
I'm also not sure that stereotype is still valid. It's the romantic image of a technology start-up trying to get a product out before funding runs out, but most engineers won't work in those. Most will work at established companies or in corporate IT, and in those places, the 60-hour week is either rare or non-existent. There may be other things that scare women away from IT/engineering jobs, but there are plenty of those available that do not require that type of having no life.