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At 10:30 AM 4/24/2012, David Morris wrote: >On Mon, 23 Apr 2012, Dave Crocker wrote: > >> However as much as I appreciate the benefits of privacy and the detriments of >> eroding it, I think there is an odd conceptual confusion taking place here: >> This is an entirely public event. It makes no sense to participate in a >> formal portion of that event and expect privacy. > >The IETF meetings are actually not totally public. You must purchase a >'ticket' to attend. We would not allow someone to walk in off the street >and photograph the functions, or even sit in a meeting and take notes. Actually, with the exception of the Beijing meeting where the hotel - not us - posted guards to keep non-badge holders out (and apparently to check id against badges), we don't actually enforce this much. I can think of a number of recent IETFs where "guests" have sat in for a short while in various conversations and WG meetings without being officially registered. Even if we did enforce the badging requirement - the payment of the registration fee does not make this a non-public meeting. ANYONE can attend.