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Re: SIDR WG Virtual Interim Meeting, March 24, 2012


I knew that SIDR was planning to hold this meeting.

The SIDR WG currently needs more interaction time
than can be accommodated within IETF week.

I verified with a number of IESG colleagues that
holding a meeting adjacent to an IETF meeting was
within the guidelines. The important point is that
it is an addition and not a replacement for a normal
IETF WG meeting. Any outcome from the interim
(together with the results of their previous interim)
will be reported at the start of the  SIDR WG session
later that week in Paris.

As a VM the WG Chairs can call this provided
they give two weeks notice to the appropriate lists.
Two weeks notice was given on the SIDR list.
I accept the chairs explanation that the failure to
copy iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx was a genuine emailing
error, and that they had intended to follow correct

No one raised any concerns on the SIDR list to the
meeting when it was announced.

It is my view  that the meeting is useful in
progressing the SIDR work and that despite the
procedural error by the SIDR Chairs the VM
should go ahead as planned.


On 15/03/2012 23:50, Ted Hardie wrote:
Is this date right?  The SIDR working group has decided to hold a
virtual interim meeting the day before the IETF, when it is holding a
working group meeting four days later on the 28th?  And it is
announcing this 9 days before the event?

If this date is correct, this seems to violate both the summary
guidance at  http://www.ietf.org/meeting/interim-meetings.html and
both the letter and the spirit of
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/interim-meetings.html .

Many, many people (including me) have booked travel that runs over
this time period, and they cannot thus make even a virtual interim

Explanation please?


Ted Hardie

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:39 PM, IESG Secretary <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
The co-chairs have arranged a virtual meeting for Mar 24, 2012.

As per process, an agenda will be announced by one week before the event.

This is scheduled for a full day - we will use this experience to gauge future meetings.

--Sandy, speaking as wg co-chair

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