Re: separate /usr/broken with udev extras

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On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 23:53, William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 11:23:00PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> On Jul 30, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > We just gave up supporting the split of tools in / vs. /usr. It does
>> You did, as shown many times other distributions surely did not.
>> I don't even know /how/ I could stop supporting a standalone /usr: some
>> distributions actually support upgrading a system to the next release,
>> and this cannot require repartitioning.
> Right, I have had a separate /usr on all of my installed systems for
> years, and I don't know of a reason having this shouldn't be supported.

Claiming as a distro that booting up with and empty /usr, with 'half'
of the tools missing, is just wishful thinking, and it the end not
more than a lie. In reality It works reliably only for limited
requirements regarding device config. I see all these bugs for many
years now.

> I would rather see us work on fixing the tools so that it can still be
> done.

Honestly, I don't think that will ever happen. It's just too much
stuff to fix and change.

Very basic server-like setups will just continue to work as they did
before. But more and more of the new stuff will just fail in
non-interesting ways.

All things that expect the new stuff to run properly, need to get an
initramfs that can mount /usr before init is started, or need to copy
/usr back to the rootfs. There is no other realistic option, really.

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