> Why aren't you scaling it before you export it? That would be way too scary!! The easiest way (for me) to lose a lot of work on a .xcf file would be to scale it and then accidentally save. The old (2.6 method I described) protected me from an accident such as that. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Mark Morin <mdmpsyd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Why aren't you scaling it before you export it? Undo the scale or don't > save the scaled xcf? It seems to me that you would want to minimize any > possible (even if trivial) distortion by editing the exported (flattened) > image rather than what you are actually working on. > > On 1/13/2014 11:27 AM, Helen wrote: > >> which buttons exactly did you press in GIMP so that you no longer >> saw it? >> In other words tell us exactly what you're doing, in both versions of >> gimp >> >> ok >> >> First In gimp 2.6: >> open or create new file. Name it. >> >> I now have (e.g.) village.xcf >> >> Work on it for weeks, saving every few minutes with >> >> file > save >> >> I now have village.xcf with all layers preserved >> >> I finish the picture, and do two steps: >> >> file > save, and then >> >> file > SaveAs > village.png >> >> I now have two copies of my creation, one with layers, and one flattened. >> >> The village.png is now the one I see on my screen; title bar confirms >> >> I then do >> >> Image > scale image > change X & Y resolution to 72 and pixel to some >> small size >> >> and click Scale. >> >> I now have one large village.xcf with all properties preserved,and one >> small flattened village.png for mailing or uploading. >> >> All is well. ( For those who keep saying you were never able to do this, I >> posted a screen shot >> >> at http://helenofmarlowe.wordpress.com/2013/09/10/usinggimp/ >> >> showing that yes, in 2.6, you could see and work on the "saved as" image. >> click screenshot image to enlarge) >> >> >> >> Now, in gimp 2.8 >> >> open or create new file. Name it. >> >> I now have (e.g.) village.xcf >> Work on it for weeks, saving every few minutes with >> file > save >> >> I now have village.xcf with all layers preserved >> I finish the picture, and do two steps: >> >> file > save, and then >> >> file > export >> >> I now have a flattened image named village.png >> >> So I need to scale it, make it small enough to email or upload >> >> But unlike in 2.6, I can’t simply proceed to do that. I have to re-open >> village.png >> >> ( Can't work on an image that's now showing on the monitor) >> >> So I go to >> >> File > Open Recent > and click village.png >> >> But of course when it opens it's no longer png >> It opens as [village](imported) >> >> Now I can of course scale this one down, but I can't save it as png >> >> so I have to export it again after I scale it. >> >> But then I have to rename it because I already have a village.png. >> >> Is this the intended work flow for creating a small, flattened png copy of >> a large multi-layerd xcf? >> >> It seems to be creating difficulties for a number of users. I don't think >> we'd have had this mountain of complaints over something as trivial as an >> unwanted save warning. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Liam R E Quin <liam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 2014-01-10 at 15:19 -0500, Helen wrote: >>> >>>> Ok, I'm trying, but this just doesn't make sense to me. >>>> You're saying I was never able to see my file after I "save as" to png >>>> or >>>> jpg, in >>>> prior versions of GIMP. >>>> >>> Helen, I think what's going on here is a question of people using words >>> differently, or more or less precisely. >>> >>> None of us can "see" files unless we take apart the computer, get out a >>> microsocope, and look at the surface of the disk. No, I'm not being a >>> smart-ass :-), what I mean is this: >>> >>> The only way we "see" a file normally is if some program or other shows >>> it to us. >>> >>> So when you say a file disappears, or you can't see a file, please tell >>> us where exactly you were seeing it before - on the deskop? In a gimp >>> window? On the list of programs at the bottom of your screen? >>> >>> Then, which buttons exactly did you press in GIMP so that you no longer >>> saw it? E.g. don't say, "I saved it", say, >>> In gimp 2.8, >>> (1) choose file->quit >>> (2) when the prompt appears, "if you quit you will lose 20 hours of >>> work", press "save" >>> (3) now gimp is no longer displaying my file and has gone away. >>> In gimp 2.6, >>> (1) choose file->save >>> (2) select a filename "happyboy.jpg" and press OK >>> (3) press OK to save the file >>> (4) GIMP is still displaying the file and the title of the window says >>> "happyboy.hpg" >>> >>> In other words tell us exactly what you're doing, in both versions of >>> gimp, as if you were telling someone else sitting at your desk how to >>> operate the computer. Then say what you expected to see, what you >>> actually saw, and what exactly was the difference. >>> >>> If it's a bug we's like to understand and fix it. >>> >>> if it's a problem with the manual, or a place where GIMP is harder to >>> use than it could be, we'd like to know that too. >>> >>> I love your drawings, by the way. >>> >>> Liam >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ >>> Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ >>> Ankh: irc.sorcery.net irc.gnome.org freenode/#xml >>> >>> >>> >> > -- Helen Etters using Linux, suse12.3 _______________________________________________ gimp-user-list mailing list List address: gimp-user-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list