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Re: [ogfs-users]Re: Newbie Question: Can I use multiple disks asone shared storage using iSCSI and OpenGFS



On Thursday 06 November 2003 04:00 pm, Arcot Arumugam wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your responses. Couple of my thoughts.
> 
> > Sounds like a good plan, except EVMS only supports raid-0 and linear, so
> no
> > kind of high availability.
> >
> > --Brian Jackson
> 
> EVMS supports Linear, RAID-0, RAID-1 RAID-4/5 by the use of MD regions.
> Please look at:
> http://evms.sourceforge.net/users_guide/#id2888379
> Excerpt from the users guide below ...
> <...>
> There are four EVMS MD region plug-ins:
> Linear, RAID-0, RAID-1, and RAID-4/5.
> The RAID-4/5 region plug-in provides support for both RAID-4 and RAID-5
> arrays.
> After an MD region manager is selected, the software provides a list of
> acceptable objects.
> The ordering of the MD array is implied by the order in which you pick
> objects from the provided list.
> The following are MD region configuration options:
> (...)

That is true, but not for cluster mode. The cluster mode (which is what you'll 
have to use with ogfs) only supports raid-0 and linear.

> 
> > I believe you are right about being protected from a disk failure.
> >
> > But what if the computer managing your raid 1 volume dies.  Obviously
> > your whole ogfs cluster goes down.
> >
> > <...>
> > Greg
> > --
> > Greg Freemyer
> 
> If I have EVMS loaded on C,D and ogfs runs on top of EVMS volume,
> does not ogfs handle node failure? Yes your setup might work
> but I am just trying the simplest approach possible.
> 
> Also seems like I am not the only person who thought about this.
> Saw this thread on EVMS list archives:
> 
> From:
> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=5689532
> 
>     >> First create a cluster container for the 2 iscsi drives. The
> container
>     will
>     >> consume the 2 drives while producing 2 segment objects.  Next, create
> an
>     md
>     >> region, using the 2 segments, and mirror them to protect against disk
>     >> failure. This is assuming that the 2 iscsi targets are actually 2
>     different
>     >> phys vols and that you mount them before running evms tools like
>     >> evms_activate or a configuration tool like evmsgui.
> 
>     >But EVMS doesn't handle RAID1 access synchronization for concurrent
>     >access as OpenGFS requires, surely? The metadata etc doesn't survive
>     >well if accessed from multiple nodes, and access to the raid chunks
>     >would also need to be synced and ordered.
> 
>     Thats what I get for only reading part of the post ... I agree.  I was
>     assuming cluster private storage.  When using cluster shared storage
> (all
>     cluster file systems) you need to avoid features that employ such
> metadata
>     ... this includes others like bbr as well.
> 
>     -Don
> 
> I do not know what it means "EVMS doesn't handle RAID1 access
> synchronization for
> concurrent access as OpenGFS requires". EVMS folks think that this is the
> only issue with this approach. Anyone can explain in english what the above
> means.

It means the same thing I told you... that it doesn't support raid-1/5 in 
cluster mode.

> My guess is that metadata will be corrupted when accessed from multiple
> nodes???

yep

> What is cluster private storage anyway?
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Arcot


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