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Christopher, On 2012-02-22 17:00, Christopher R. Antila wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/2012 03:51 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:On 02/21/2012 09:07 PM, Kyrian wrote:... - Then I think, ah, wrong kernel, and pulseaudio? But that could be grouped too, no? Have, say, Jack and have it conflict with pulseaudio somehow?Pulseaudio is proving to be a pain. Its now an implicit dependency of the default desktop (GNOME) which is unfortunate. Having said all that, I think its a great piece of software, but creates unnecessary complications when all you want to do is create/produce and edit music. There are some applications which refuse to play with anything else now (skype anyone?) that mean people like me have no choice but to coexist with it. I'm still not happy with my setup - other users on this list have also posted their solutions . I think we should aim to ship a pulseaudio-less solution. This means we need to decide on a desktop that's not Gnome - of course that won't make everyone happy, but if we have the comps group like you suggest, those gnome users can still pull in the audio packages with ease.Something about this seems off. I remember when it used to be the case that audio cards generally wouldn't work by default in Linux. Slowly, eventually, PulseAudio solved that. If we remove PulseAudio, we're forcing our users to "go it alone." Now, I understand that PulseAudio isn't ideal for audiocreation software--that's why it uses JACK--but we don't want to throwaway everything that PulseAudio gained. And surely we want to allowpeople to use GNOME if they want. And Skype. Otherwise we risk runninginto a situation where people enjoy using the Fedora Audio Spin for audio-creation tasks, but can't stand it for anything else.
That hasn't been my experience - after much pain over the last few years with audio, the first thing I do is remove PA and just use ALSA . . but I am an audio guru wannabe . .
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