Re: Call to arms - Fedora Audio Spin

Philip Rhoades <phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Wed, 22 Feb 2012 20:05:12 +1100

Christopher,

On 2012-02-22 17:00, Christopher R. Antila wrote:

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On 02/21/2012 03:51 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:

On 02/21/2012 09:07 PM, Kyrian wrote:

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- Then I think, ah, wrong kernel, and pulseaudio? But that could
be grouped too, no? Have, say, Jack and have it conflict with
pulseaudio somehow?

Pulseaudio is proving to be a pain. Its now an implicit dependency
of the default desktop (GNOME) which is unfortunate. Having said
all that, I think its a great piece of software, but creates
unnecessary complications when all you want to do is
create/produce and edit music. There are some applications which
refuse to play with anything else now (skype anyone?) that mean
people like me have no choice but to coexist with it. I'm still not
happy with my setup - other users on this list have also posted
their solutions [2]. I think we should aim to ship a
pulseaudio-less solution. This means we need to decide on a desktop
that's not Gnome - of course that won't make everyone happy, but if
we have the comps group like you suggest, those gnome users can
still pull in the audio packages with ease.

Something about this seems off.

I remember when it used to be the case that audio cards generally
wouldn't work by default in Linux. Slowly, eventually, PulseAudio
solved that. If we remove PulseAudio, we're forcing our users to "go
it alone." Now, I understand that PulseAudio isn't ideal for audio

creation software--that's why it uses JACK--but we don't want to 

throw

away everything that PulseAudio gained. And surely we want to allow

people to use GNOME if they want. And Skype. Otherwise we risk 

running

into a situation where people enjoy using the Fedora Audio Spin for
audio-creation tasks, but can't stand it for anything else.

That hasn't been my experience - after much pain over the last few 

years with audio,  the first thing I do is remove PA and just use ALSA . 

. but I am an audio guru wannabe . .

Regards,

Phil.
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