Re: tracker bug for failed fallback created

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On Thu, 2011-02-17 at 10:47 -0500, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Matthias Clasen <mclasen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 11:21 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >> Hey, folks. Just a note that I set up a tracker bug for known cases
> >> where trying to start GNOME 3 results in something totally unusable -
> >> Shell fails and fallback does not work correctly. So far there's a
> >> couple of bugs blocking it. The tracker is
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678116 , it has the alias
> >> F15GNOMEfail. Please add any appropriate bugs to it, for convenience.
> >> thanks!
> >
> > Thanks, that is useful. Fallback is under active development atm.
> 
> I think we need to distinguish between hardware/driver specifc bugs
> versus general ones.

In fixing the bugs, sure...I think having a single list of all the known
instances of 'houston, we have a problem' is helpful though.

>   Both of the ones on the list look
> hardware-specific.  

Well, I mean, I think just about _all_ bugs of this kind are going to be
hardware-specific somehow. The only way that wouldn't be the case is if
the fallback mechanism were somehow utterly and completely broken in
implementation; once you've written a fallback mechanism that at least
theoretically does what it's supposed to do, all bugs are 'corner
cases', yes?

> Fixing these kinds of things will involve at a
> minimum a lot of back and forth with the reporter, running tools,
> looking at output, etc.  We may be able to do some of this for F15,
> but barring some major jump in manpower, it's unlikely we can do *all*
> of them.

Sure; I'm not assuming we will. I just want to have a single place where
we can quickly go to get an overview of such bugs.

> I think we're going to need to have an always-fallback hardware
> blacklist somewhere.  Where exactly that lives and how it works is up
> for debate.  I'd strawman that we make a new module/RPM
> "gnome-shell-blacklist" and insert it in the startup path, but better
> ideas are welcome.

That's up to you folks :)
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