Re: Fedora 13 Schedule

[John Poelstra <poelstra@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 11/25/2009 01:45 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-11-25 at 13:09 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
> > On 11/25/2009 05:58 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 19:44 -0500, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 2009-11-24 at 15:57 -0800, John Poelstra wrote:
> > > > > The basic structure of Fedora 13 schedule has been set and will soon go
> > > > > to FESCo for final approval.  Once that happens I will build proposed
> > > > > schedules for: Documentation, Translation, Design, Marketing, and Websites.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Schedule
> > > > > http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-13/f-13-releng-tasks.html
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have constructive feedback for altering or enhancing the
> > > > > schedule, now is the time to give it.  If it would be helpful to create
> > > > > a public Desktop specific schedule I'd be glad to help with that as well.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think I have much constructive feedback, other than that the
> > > > development phase seems very short, with holidays and whatnot.
> > >
> > > I was just looking at that as well, and have came up with 5 months of
> > > development/testing (including from date F12 was released) for the
> > > cycle?  Just curious, isn't that kind of short?  And as stated above,
> > > not even realy 5 months, since all the major holidays are included in
> > > this cycle.
> >
> > Fedora does not usually factor in holidays.  I've attempted to include
> > them in previous schedule drafts, but they were dismissed by others as
> > not being relevant to Fedora since we don't have official work days,
> > office hours, etc..  Granted if a serious freeze or release date
> > occurred during a major holiday period I'm sure they would reconsider,
> > but our release dates are such that they don't.
>
> I've seen plenty of earlier discussion where rel-eng was carefully
> trying to triangulate the release date around thanksgiving or easter.
> It seems somewhat unfair to say that rel-eng get to take holidays, but
> developers are expected to work straight through... :-)

That does sound inconsistent.  Which releases did this happen for and 
where did the discussion take place?

John

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