Re: 3rd party inks

["Ray Waddington" <rayw2@ctc.net>]

<x-charset iso-8859-1>Because sRGB is the only option that appears in both my scanner and driver.
Others have pointed out that Adobe RGB
has a wider gamut but although it is an option on the scanner, it isn't an
option in the driver. I'm quite new to the digital world so
maybe I'm missing something, but I thought it would be important to match
the color spaces in the scan and the print.

----- Original Message -----
From: "dickbo" <dickbo@btopenworld.com>
To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:32 AM
Subject: Re: 3rd party inks


> Whay are you using sRGB colour space?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Grohs" <cgrohs@triad.rr.com>
> To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: 3rd party inks
>
>
> > From: "Ray Waddington" <rayw2@ctc.net>
> > Subject: Re: 3rd party inks
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who responded. I'd rather not post the details of
> vendor
> > or ink here, as I don't want to
> > stir things up if they read the list. If anyone wants to contact me
> > off-list, I'll respond with the information.
> >
> > I scan mainly Kodachromes and Ektachromes on a Nikon Super Coolscan
> 4000ED.
> > I scan sRGB and print usually
> > at Photo 1440 with the sRGB setting in the driver. My OS is Windows
2000.
> > I've been happy with the results I've gotten,
> > in the 2 weeks I've had the printer, using Epson inks and paper. I
wanted
> to
> > look into 3rd-party supplies because I'm
> > finding the printer goes through the ink much faster than I expected.
> > There's nothing wrong with the nozzles because as
> > soon as I put genuine Epson ink back in there the quality returned to
what
> > I'm used to. I'm using ink cartridges rather than
> > a bulk ink continuous feed system.
> >
> > I don't really know anything about custom profiles - what I would need
to
> > buy to set one up etc. I don't want to spend
> > any more money on this printer, as I view it as a starter until the 2200
> is
> > available, at which point I'll retire it after its
> > short life.
> >
> > ***********************
> >
> > It pretty much sounds like a profiling problem. Since you are waiting on
> > another printer and are happy with the results you were getting I would
> > suggest that you stick with Epson inks until you switch printers. You
can
> > then turn your old printer into a dedicated black and white printer, it
> > doesn't have to be retired. Most color inks do not do a very good job
with
> > b/w.
> >
> > The Epson printer driver has the paper/ink printing information
(basically
> > profiles) built into it for the various papers. Once you get away from
the
> > Epson inks and/or papers you have to have a custom profile for the
printer
> > to print color correctly. There are several software packages that
create
> > custom profiles-WiziWYG, Monaco EZ Color and ColorVision
ProfilerPlus/Pro
> > are the least expensive. You will spend at least about $100 and up to
> > $400-just rough guesses as I don't have the actual figures handy. And
you
> > can spend much more on more sophisticated packages. The programs will
work
> > with this printer and the new printer so you can buy now and still use
it
> > later.
> >
> > There are several sources to have custom profiles made. Not sure about
the
> > cost but somewhere in the $100 range each. If you only use a limited
> > combination of inks and papers this may be the way to go. The folks who
do
> > the custom profiles have very good equipment to do the profiles and most
> > folks who use them are very satisfied. CDTobie here on the list provides
> > this service and should be contacted off-list.
> >
> > Profiles are not magic nor are they automatic. (Took me a while to learn
> > that, even as much as I wanted them to be.) Some have had good success
> with
> > making their own custom profiles others have not. And most profiles need
> > additional "tweaking" depending on what results you want from them. I
> > suggest you look at the archives to get some idea of what you are gettin
g
> > into with profiling. It has been one of the most talked about subjects
on
> > the list.
> >
> > I think it is Mediastreet that has cartridge inks called Plug N Play
that
> > are supposed to be close to the Epson inks in color that are somewhat
> > cheaper than the factory inks. www.mediastreet .com  Links to the some
of
> > the better ink vendors are listed on the list FAQ. If you are going to
do
> a
> > lot of printing then one of the bulk ink systems might be what you'll
> need.
> > I would not use just any 3rd party inks regardless of how inexpensive
they
> > are. They seem to cause more trouble than they are worth. Just my
opinion.
> >
> > I also wonder about scanning and printing in sRGB, it has a smaller
color
> > gamut than AdobeRGB which is what many folks here on the list use. But
if
> > you are happy with the results then that's all that counts. And that
would
> > bring another set of problems.
> >
> > Not sure what else to say, it is a complex subject and cannot be covered
> in
> > one post, or several posts. Good luck.
> >
> > Warmest Regards,
> > Carl Grohs, Jr.    Design Directions    Eden, NC
> >
> > Epson FAQ Site:
> > http://home.att.net/~arwomack01/
> > Epson List Archives:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/epson-inkjet/
> >
> >
> >
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