Re: Bronzing with Fotonic inks

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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Alright, David, which non-matte papers give the best life expectancy with
dye inks?  I seem to recall its gelatin-containing papers.  Which are these?
And don't they all cost about one USD per A4 sheet?

And, while I'm asking, which *dye* inks *that work in desktop Epsons---and
available in bulk* give the best life expectancy?.  Do Fotonics really give
more life expectancy, on their optimum non-matte papers, than the MIS 1270
dyes?  The Fotonics are three times the cost of the MISs....

And what kind of paper is Epson Colorlife, that gives 10+ years with 1270
OEM inks?  Will MISs or Fotonics perform as well?

I know that the Epson dye inks for the 7000-9000-10000 can be decanted into
CIS bottles.  But will they work in a 1270/80 and give superior life
expectancy to Fotonics or MIS dye inks? You yourself wrote recently they
were different than the 1270 OEMs, for instance.

Mitch Hull, still trying to figure out a decent life-expectancy non-glossy
non 1270 OEM ink+paper system for his 1270.....<sigh>

Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:18:50 EST
From: CDTobie@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bronzing with Fotonic inks

In a message dated 3/14/02 6:39:10 PM, peterbrown.riba@totalise.co.uk
writes:

>Give Ilford Galerie Classic Gloss a try. I have been very impressed by
>
>its performace with Lyson Fotonic Inks. There is no bronzing at all with
>
>colors and only a hint with black. I suspect that limiting the total ink
>
>with a good RIP would also get rid of any vestiges of bronzing with the
>
>black.  This is by far the best gloss paper I have found to work with 
>Lyson Fotonic inks.
>

This is a microceramic paper; this type of instant dry, waterproof paper 
offers excellent looking prints, and avoid bronzing well, since  the ink 
spreads thoughout the ceramic layer. But the life expectancy of prints on 
these papers is somewhat limited since the ink is open to environmental 
pollutants. Anything printed on microporous papers with dye inks needs to be

sealed in a frame or laminated. RIPs do offer control of ink levels; but the

Epson drivers tend to print less ink in the blacks than most RIP 
configurations, which can print "rich" four color blacks. If you reduce the 
black below the 100%K level used in the RGB drivers, its not black any
more..
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