<x-charset iso-8859-1>Alright, David, which non-matte papers give the best life expectancy with dye inks? I seem to recall its gelatin-containing papers. Which are these? And don't they all cost about one USD per A4 sheet? And, while I'm asking, which *dye* inks *that work in desktop Epsons---and available in bulk* give the best life expectancy?. Do Fotonics really give more life expectancy, on their optimum non-matte papers, than the MIS 1270 dyes? The Fotonics are three times the cost of the MISs.... And what kind of paper is Epson Colorlife, that gives 10+ years with 1270 OEM inks? Will MISs or Fotonics perform as well? I know that the Epson dye inks for the 7000-9000-10000 can be decanted into CIS bottles. But will they work in a 1270/80 and give superior life expectancy to Fotonics or MIS dye inks? You yourself wrote recently they were different than the 1270 OEMs, for instance. Mitch Hull, still trying to figure out a decent life-expectancy non-glossy non 1270 OEM ink+paper system for his 1270.....<sigh> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 08:18:50 EST From: CDTobie@aol.com Subject: Re: Bronzing with Fotonic inks In a message dated 3/14/02 6:39:10 PM, peterbrown.riba@totalise.co.uk writes: >Give Ilford Galerie Classic Gloss a try. I have been very impressed by > >its performace with Lyson Fotonic Inks. There is no bronzing at all with > >colors and only a hint with black. I suspect that limiting the total ink > >with a good RIP would also get rid of any vestiges of bronzing with the > >black. This is by far the best gloss paper I have found to work with >Lyson Fotonic inks. > This is a microceramic paper; this type of instant dry, waterproof paper offers excellent looking prints, and avoid bronzing well, since the ink spreads thoughout the ceramic layer. But the life expectancy of prints on these papers is somewhat limited since the ink is open to environmental pollutants. Anything printed on microporous papers with dye inks needs to be sealed in a frame or laminated. RIPs do offer control of ink levels; but the Epson drivers tend to print less ink in the blacks than most RIP configurations, which can print "rich" four color blacks. If you reduce the black below the 100%K level used in the RGB drivers, its not black any more.. ***************************************************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender immediately. ***************************************************************************************************** - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. </x-charset>