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The 780 is just as fast as the 870, just built on a light duty chassis designed for home use. The 870/890 printers are built on a stronger, more durable chassis and are ready for office or photographic use on a daily basis. For those who order Epson T008 and T009's by the dozen, the 870/890 printers are going to hold up better. Jon - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.