Re: Thinking of switching to Generations Enhanced: Opinions

["Moreno Polloni" <mp@dccnet.com>]

<x-charset iso-8859-1>> Moreno,
>
> I did print a portrait and under tungsten light, it looks maybe equivalent
to 4
> to 5 cc  more magenta, (in the kodak gelatin filter line), than it does in
> daylight. If you're not looking for it, it isn't obvious. A print with a
whole
> bunch of colors doesn't have enough metamerism to worry about. Grays seem
very
> neutral under tungsten and daylight. I have not tried them under
fluorescent
> lighting yet.

That sound subtle enough. With the Cone colour/Gen4 black I was getting a
similar shift going from tungsten to daylight. The aesthetics of the shift
are also important. A slight shift to pink/magenta is quite tolerable with
skintones, shifting to green/yellow isn't very flattering at all.

> > Have you printed any of the same images with both the Gen4 and MIS
inksets?
>
> Yes. The Generations doesn't have a very deep yellow, so the MIS inks seem
a
> little more brilliant. But a good profile could be made for the
Generations
> inks that would bring them into line, I would think. In a dip and dunk
test,
> the MIS yellow is much darker and more brilliant than generations. Think
Lemon
> yellow for Generations, and Cadmium Yellow Deep for the MIS Yellow.
However
> either set can give you brilliant colors, with either a good profile, or
> tweaking the saturation a bit.

The MIS yellow sounds similar to the interim Cone yellow. They never did
send me their final yellow so I don't if it's changed any.

> I would probably be using the Cone inks if the black weren't so weak and
if
> they didn't have so many clogging problems. But it is and they do, and I
can
> live without anymore hassles. I have never had a clogging problem with
either
> MIS OR Generations inks.

I had some Gen4 clogging issues with the 1200, but none at all with the 1280
(which is contrary to what most other people have been experiencing). The
problems I'm having with the Cone inks are misting and overspray, as well as
the inability to get decent colour registration. I'd also like to see a
deeper Cone black. In my informal swab tests, I found the MIS quadtone 75%
black to be darker than the Cone black.

I do hope Cone comes up with a viable inkset for the 1280's, but in the
meantime, it looks like I'll have to try something else. Your experiences
with MIS sound very promising.

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