<x-charset Windows-1252>Thanks, Tyler, that's a big help. Now that I know a bit more about what the problems could be I can think about my corrections more creatively rather than relying on the randomness that has been my guiding principle to date. And it's a load off my mind to be able to ignore the total ink laydown. I'm presently working on MIS's 838 Glossy and too much ink does not seem to be a problem. Next, I'll be doing Somerset Velvet and I don't expect that to be a problem with excessive ink either, maybe I'll need the double density black for that, in fact. Frank - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. </x-charset>