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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Travis, Have you tried lacquer spraying the prints on the Colorfast paper to see if that helps with water resistance and to determine if spraying has any negative side-effects? -----Original Message----- From: owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com [mailto:owner-epson-inkjet@leben.com]On Behalf Of Travisimo! Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 9:11 AM To: PhotoRoy6@aol.com Subject: Re[2]: Epson's Colorfast - 1st impressions > All we know is that Epson OEM inks wash off the page. Nobody washed the MIS > inks yet so they might not wash. My observation of the ink washing off was a > remark about color balance. If you don't like the color balance you can do it > again. Or when you are done proofing wash the proofs away and reuse the paper. I can confirm that the ink will wash off with the MIS Lightfast inks as well. Hot water will do it quickly, cold water takes longer. A water spot on the paper will smudge the ink. Now if your hands are just damp and you hold the print, I did not experience any smudging or washoff. If your hands were completely wet, however, it would definitely smudge. The prints will dry faster if the air is cool and dry. I made the first prints on the Colorlife paper when my air conditioner was off. They took quite a while to dry (at least several hours, overnight was completely dry). It was very warm and humid in the house, so I turned on the air the next day and made some more prints. These dried a lot faster, although it is certainly much longer drying time than the other Epson papers. Smudging can occur if you fondle the prints when they first come out of the printer. After a few minutes, they are ok to touch, but not to place on top of each other (or you will see ink on the backs of your photos). Once they are dry, it is fine to put them on top of each other, to touch them and they will not smudge. Before they are dry, they feel sticky/tacky. Once they are dry, they actually feel very nice. They don't have that *waxy* feel like the resin papers (Premium Glossy, etc). It looks like no matter what paper we will use, we will have to make disclaimers to others that we give/sell our prints to. For most papers, we have to tell others to make sure to put prints in frames or albums/sleeves so that they don't shift. For the Colorlife paper, it is unclear whether we have to make THAT disclaimer, but we would want to point out that they are not water resistant. With ANY of these papers, storing them in frames/albums will offer the best protection. But I can both types of paper being used. Some people would probably be more concerned about water resistance than gas fading. Others will be more concerned about light/gasfastness than water resistance. Personally, if the Colorlife paper really does prevent the orange shifting and has about 2.5 times greater lightfastness too, then I would be compelled to use it. I don't think I have ever gotten water on my prints since I have been photo printing (about 3 years now). But I have experienced many fades/shifts that have ruined my prints. And obviously, those using the highly acclaimed Matte-heavyweight paper have to be very concerned about water as well. Just my opinion! Travis - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. </x-charset>
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