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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Robert L Krawitz wrote: > The issue here appears (to me, at any rate) to be exactly the same as > RGB vs. CMYK, except one level deeper: CMYK doesn't say anything about > how C splits up into dark and light cyan. > > What it sounds like your point is, though, is that the profile is > essentially a mapping between input CMYK and printer output; if the > output is non-linear, a good (i. e. complete) enough profile will > correct this through feedback (in the profiling process). That's the idea, exactly -- except it's even better than that. The CMYK profile (at least the kind I've been working with) is actually a mapping from the *RGB* image space to the printed CMYK color. Unlike RGB profiles, which are applied when printing, the CMYK profile is applied to separate the RGB 3-channel image into a CMYK 4-channel image, which is then printed "straight through" to the driver without further application of any profile. > Why does the prospect of mixing light cyan and black trouble you? > > Partly because it increases the total amount of ink on the paper in a > range where the paper's already close to saturation. At that point, > the inks interact quite strongly with each other, and simply > increasing the amount of ink doesn't increase the darkness any more. Point taken. I'd love to know what Steve Upton says about this: he is far more expert on color gamuts than I. (I've CC'd him on this.) My hypothesis is that if the image really calls for a very dark color, as you say, the C value coming to the driver *would* map to dark cyan, not light, and the partitioning curve need not change shape as a function of black level. Of course it should phase over from light cyan to dark (only) above some mid-range C value. I agree that the "adaptive partitioning" idea is interesting: if there's enough black ink around, just use dark cyan, since nobody can see the dots anyway, which saves total ink. I'm just not enough of a color geek to know if it really helps, and how well it would work with the ICC profile model. I'll stay tuned for the experts. Richard Wolfson rwolfson at LyricDesign.com - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. </x-charset>
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