Depending on your weight requirement; you might consider looking at Red River Zeppeliin Semi-Gloss 45lb. and coated on two sides. Red River sells a sample pack of their photo papers, 81/2x11, with 2 sheets of their photo papers for $7.99. They also sell a similar sample kit of their fine art papers. Same price. Or, you can buy both at the same time for $14.99. When I don't print on their Polar Gloss and want a not too dull matte, I will use the Zepplin. I quite liked the sample I used. Call 888-248-8774 or www.redriverpaper.com I have found them to have good service and they are most accomodating. Tom Garrett Howard Averbach wrote: > > Linda -- > > In your postscript below, you mentioned "Red River Ultra Pro Satin #62". > May I ask for a little further description of this product. > > In particular, if we can agree for purposes of this question that matte > papers tend to show a little less detail (probably because the ink spreads a > little), and that glossy is a little too shiny and reflective, then I am > seeking somethig in the middle -- sharp detail but not overly reflective. > Irrespective of manufacturer nomenclature, I would say that I am seeking a > good semi-gloss (or semi-matte) paper, and there seems to be so little > semi-gloss (or semi-matte) on the market, as compared to glossy and matte. > > Would it be your opinion that "Red River Ultra Pro Satin #62" is a > semi-gloss (or semi-matte), having the above-described, middle-of-the-road, > characteristics? > > By your statement that "the ink won't dry," may I assume that this paper > works with dye-based inks, but not pigmented? I use an Epson 870 printer > with Epson (dye-based) inks, and am about to purchase an Epson 860 printer > (essentially the same as your 1160) and use quad-tone, pigmented inks. > > Epson, of course, sells its brand of semi-gloss; it was introduced with the > 2000p. While I'm sure it works with Epson pigmented inks, I've never heard > of anyone using Epson's semi-gloss, and thus I suspect it may not work well > with other pigmented inks. > > So, bottom line: I am seeking suggestions on semi-gloss papers -- for > pigmanted and/or dye-based inks. In your experience, Linda, where would Red > River Ultra Pro Satin #62 fit into my situation? (If it helps with respect > to your comments, I have ColorVision Profiler RGB software, so I should be > able to generate printer profiles for many papers (except, of course, for > the "blues problem".)) > > I solicit others' comments as well. > > Thank you. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lajacobs" <lajacobs@gte.net> > To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com> > Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:35 PM > Subject: Is some banding expected on 1160? > > > > > TIA, Linda > > > > PS: BTW, before I installed the Generations ink, I printed a lot of photos > > on RedRiver's UltraPro Satin 62# - what a nice nice paper for anyone > wanting > > a photographic paper look to their prints! No banding at all on it. I did > a > > test print using Generations on this paper and it actually banded more > than > > the matte papers - of course the ink won't dry - I didn't expect it to, > but > > just wanted to compare the Generations inks to the EOM inks on the paper. > > Anyhow, anyone using EOM inks might want to get a sample of this paper - > it > > is very nice. > > - > Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate > subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.