<x-charset iso-8859-1>% I think that the macs are a better solution for photoshop but the price has always been a hurdle. but if you could afford a pentium4 you could probably afford a mac. you allso might want to consider a scsi hard drive for either system because the ide bus is a huge bottleneck ============= Hey Les- For less money you can get an 800 or 900 on a motherboard that supports a 200MHz FSB. The ATA66 HDDs are screamers at 7200 RPM. A simple add-on IDE controller lets you use ATA100 without the SCSI translation bottleneck. Justr goes to show you, with the same buzz words you can argue either side! Check it out Les, there's some good PCs being built. It's just that Compaq, HP and IBM aren't the ones doing it. Seth - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions. </x-charset>