Re: **To 3000 or not to 3000**

[CDTobie@aol.com]

In a message dated 10/21/00 10:33:18 PM, zaharia@telus.net writes:

>What papers have you tried these inks on and what kind of results have
>you
>
>achieved? Do you think they will work well with glossy papers as well?
>
>What printer?
>
>If the 3000, can you notice dots?

Its been a while, but as I recall, typical Epson papers and Epson compatable 
papers, coated and glossy. They are the same basic inks as the Lysonics, and 
are compatable with the same broad range of papers. Certainly Weber Valentine 
JPG glossies work with them.  Being tonally adjustable, it doesn't matter so 
much that the ink and paper form a perfect neutral together, because you 
adjust the tone to suit your taste, so Jerry could crank them right over to 
blue, even on a paper where they tended to print warm... it would just reduce 
the yellow and increase the cyan. The paper might still be warm, but the 
image would not. 

Yes, I've used them on the 3000, in fact I have a Joe Holmes original print 
with these inks from a 3000 on the wall near me as I write this, and the 
answer is that I *ought* to be able to see dots, there's not an obvious 
theory that explains why these inks are less grainy than standard CMYKs... 
but they are. After all, you are using inks with the same driver, and the 
same ink darkness as standard CMY inks (K doesn't ever come in until the 
actual blacks) but somehow the lower gamut of the inks allows them to blend 
together better, and reduce visible dots. 

I'm quite satisfied with the results, and the life expectancy is good, and 
there is little metamerism or bronzing... and they are certainly simple to 
use. But for me the clincher is to have simple, visual control of the tone or 
tones used. Jan Faul has a famous protrait of a woman done entirely in black 
and white, except for the subtle gold tint of her wedding band. With these 
inks, that image would not only be possible, but simple.

C. David Tobie
Design Cooperative
CDTobie@designcoop.com
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