>I have definite bronzing with Generations on Weber Valentine JPG-206. >But no smudging or puddling. I find it acceptable for many uses, but >at some angles the bronzing is defintely visible, which wouldn't work >for some people in some situations. David, how does the Generations on W-V JPG-206 compare with Generations on Epson Photo Paper? I've been using it on W-V 170, which I assume has the same glossy surface with a thinner base. I find the colours rather pale and dull relative to the Epson paper, even with a MatchLock profile, although admittedly I haven't tried too much tweaking. Bronzing is about the same on both, I would guess. Regards, Roger Smith - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.