>> don't really need wider than 13" prints, and I figured the 4pl nozzles on >> the 1160 would produce superior output. But with the 1160 system pricing as >> high as it is, I'm now unsure as to how to proceed. >> >> Has anyone seen 1160 piezo prints? Are they significantly better than 3000 >> prints? I saw the beta Piezograph at Photoexpo and was able to compare prints (identical images - assuming same file) from the 1160 and the 3000. Without magnification I was able to see details in the 1160 that didn't show up on the 3000. The details were subtle but they were there - most people wouldn't notice. I expect the final release of the 1160 should be superior to the 3000 in every way except print size. This is not to say the 3000 isn't awesome. A 16x20 piezograph from the 3000 is awesome! Joseph - Turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for list instructions.