Re: Non-Archival Bulk inks

["Bill" <bill_pitcher@thepitchergallery.com>]

Hi Frank,

In regards to switching back and forth between G2 inks and dye based inks
,you asked:
>How much of a transition is there? I've heard everything from 5 sheets
>per color or more! Do you run a series of color blocks or anything?

There just can't be much of a transition here!  I suspect the 5 sheet thing
is referring to the amount of ink in a cartridge after the empty light has
come on and not to how much ink is left in the system (we're talking about a
1200 here).  I'm refilling cartridges and, basically, here's what I do:
I refill near the end of the day (sometimes this means that I pull out the
existing cartridge before I really need to, but this works well for me).
When I've finished refilling, I let the new cartridge "sit and drip".  As
soon as the dripping stops, I remove the old cartridge from the printer and
insert the new one.  I run 1 cleaning cycle and then print a colour patch
that I made in PhotoShop.  I then do a second cleaning and run a second
colour patch.  I don't bother doing nozzle checks at this stage.  The main
reason I do cleaning cycles and patch prints right away is to make sure I
don't end up with an overfilled cartridge dripping ink into the printer over
night.  Now I leave it sit until the next morning.  Leaving the new
cartridge sit in the printer seems to allow the ink to settle into both the
sponge and the pre-chamber.  In the morning I run a cleaning cycle and then
do a nozzle check for the first time.  If it's still not printing on all
nozzles, I'll do one more cleaning and another nozzle check.  It's rare that
I have to do a third but past this point, I would print a patch before
running another cleaning cycle.  I've NEVER had any "air" clogs or ruined
prints part way through a cartridge.  I suspect that this procedure takes
care of any transition.

>What paper do you suggest? (I DO want to make stunningly
>beautiful photographic prints too!)

I really like Royal Plush (Royal Plush, Luminos Classic Velour and Lyson
Standard Fine Art
Paper are all the same paper manufactured by a mill in Germany called
Hahnemuhle.)  This is a combination that, I think, really works on a 1200.
And again, I'll join Jerry in singing the praises or G2's "beta black".  I
DO NOT use pigmented inks on glossy paper - it just doesn't work for me.

>So you're using the Generations dye inkset for photos on glossy? Are the
>results as good as the OEMs? I'll be profiling with MatchLock soon I
>hope!

NO - some prints on glossy have been borderline OK, most have not.  With
regards to colour management, I barely understand the concept - never mind
being able to use it!

Bill
web:    www.thepitchergallery.com
e-mail:  bill_pitcher@thepitchergallery.com







----- Original Message -----
From: Frank Wiewandt <fwphoto@lrbcg.com>
To: <epson-inkjet@leben.com>
Sent: February 23, 2000 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Non-Archival Bulk inks


> Bill,
>
> Your post makes entirely *too* much sense to me! ;-)
>
> > I'm also using a 1200 and because there is virtually no ink in the
> system,
> > and because Generations ink is "compatible" with OEM ink, I regularly
> switch
> > back and forth between pigmented and dye based inks.  I save up my
> > non-archival printing until I have enough, put in the dye-based ink,
> and go
> > at it.  If there is still ink at the end of the run, I use it up on
> greeting
> > cards, or on a sheet of business cards, etc.
>
> How much of a transition is there? I've heard everything from 5 sheets
> per color or more! Do you run a series of color blocks or anything?
>
> > The main problem with photographs and pigmented ink is with printing
> on
> > glossy papers, but you CAN make stunningly beautiful photographic
> prints on
> > the right paper.
>
> What paper do you suggest? (I DO want to make stunningly beautiful
> photographic prints too!)
>
> > So in the meantime, I'm more or less in the same boat as you.  I'm
> using
> > bulk dye based inks (but only when pigmented inks won't do) while
> waiting
> > for a better solution.
>
> So you're using the Generations dye inkset for photos on glossy? Are the
> results as good as the OEMs? I'll be profiling with MatchLock soon I
> hope!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank Wiewandt
>
>
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