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Ok, A question for you guys before I revise my comments on the topic posted previously. Is the color printer something that you would consider a home/office level printer or one that is more in the commercial range. If it is the former ( the price range in my opinion precludes it), then I will eat my earlier words. However, if it is in the commercial range, I will stand by my original comments to Marie and add that the printer that you are referring to may be an example of what is to come in the future vis-ˆ-vis the home/office market but it is not what currently exists. -----Original Message----- From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf Of John Goerger Sent: Monday, February 14, 2000 9:47 AM To: firstname.lastname@example.org Subject: Re: Color Lasers/injets John Nollendorfs wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 12:47:08 -0500 > > From: rafeb <email@example.com> > > Subject: Re: The 1270-Bad news / QA-engineering/responsibility to > employees > > > > At 10:32 AM 2/13/00 -0600, Marie T. wrote: > > > > > This is going to be a question from a real novice, so please bear with > me > > >and don't consider me stupid, or something. After all this hassle with > > >inkjet printers and the expense of ink, wouldn't it be better in the long > > >run to just go with a colored laser? > > > > > > Not such a stupid question. There are a number > > of answers... > > > > First, color laser printers are much more expensive, > > in general, than inkjet printers. They're also > > physically larger, heavier, etc. > > > > Second, IMHO -- the ones I've seen can't match the > > output quality of an Epson printer, in good repair, > > using quality inks and paper. For "business graphics," > > maybe. For photos, not even close. > > > > I wouldn't be surprised if things change over the > > next couple of years. It's only been a few short > > years since BW laser printers were affordable for > > personal use. > > > > Long term, though, color printing will always be > > more expensive and more complicated than BW > > printing -- except for the case of BW printing > > via multitones. > > Rafe: > Maybe you haven't been keeping up with the latest color Laser technology. > The new Zerox Doc 12,($20k+) does a pretty incredible job of printing > photographic results. Also, since it has a straight-through paper path, it > can print on heavy materials, including canvas. Printing on a coated glossy > stock could almost be mistaken for photographic by a novice. Three or four > years ago I could never have dreamed to get this kind of quality from a > "copier" But then, look how much ink-jet technology has progressed also. > > These printers are starting to make inroads in the "sport card" area of > photography. As well as other high-volume photographic venues where some > image quality might be traded for the convenience and fast turn-around. But > newer personal laser printers are also starting to match this kind of > quality in the $4-7k range (11x17). Needless to say, this price is still too > steep for most of us. > > The principle reason ink-jets are so popular, is they are cheap! And, the > manufacturer's are making a mint on the ink carts. And the quality of the > prints they produce today can be regarded as "photographic". And soon the > photographic looking prints will last nearly as long as regular photo > prints. Combine this with the "boom" in digital cameras, you have a great > new hobby. > > A major reason I consider ink-jet technology superior over color copiers, is > the use of dye inks. (although many on this list have been using pigment > based products) Dyes are what give photographs their depth and "inner glow" > on glossy materials. This can not be achieved with pigment processes such as > with the color laser printer. > > John Nollendorfs > - > Please turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use > accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for instructions. This is true, We ran some of our JPG170 through a xerox color laser at siggraph in LA back in Aug 99, and it came out looking to my novice eye, like a true photo. - Please turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for instructions. - Please turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for instructions.