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Well, excccuuuuusse me ! If Epson offers archival inks (or regular inks for those of us who don't care about fading) at a price we are willing to live with, we won't be "bashing" for long, I can tell you that. If they don't, we will either live with it and stay, or we will find value somewhere else. Just as Epson (and you) think about your company (and employees), so do many on this list think about THEIR companies (and employees). Many of us home users who were re-filling quit when we could get carts from places like buycomp.com, MIS, WE-INK, Media-Street, etc. at what we thought were within reason. And many of us stayed with OEM carts at that! Most (if not all) sing the praises of their Epson printers on a daily basis. But we are certainly not sheep. Epson may find that their warranty costs go down (though they did repair mine when they KNEW the printer was three months out of warranty) along with their sales! I have personally bought 3 printers from them (ALL for home use only!) and I'm currently thinking of another before Summer, but if I find that I cannot get OEM or other cartridges/inks cheaply enough, I will buy from HP or Canon, or someone else, where I can refill. No one has said that from Epson's point of view they are wrong. We are saying from our point of view (a consumer who will or won't be buying their product) they may be wrong with using a chip and will lose our business if we can't figure a way around it OR if they don't accommodate our needs in another way (much cheaper ink cartridges... continuous ink systems?)! We don't take issue with Epson from an engineering point of view or a benevolent employer standpoint. Epson can do what they want, and so can we. If you've been on this listserv for any amount of time, you know that most of us are fanatics about our Epsons, and in fact do more promotion for them than any salesmen in the computer stores (have you ever eavesdropped on the salesmen in stores... they push people AWAY from Epsons... at least here in Indiana.) The chip design may help Epson retain quality (& less warranty work) and OEM cart sales, but I may need to go to another brand so as to keep my consumable costs down. We all know the industry gives the printers away in order to sell the cartridges. Some of us prefer to figure out ways to keep the consumables down also. And why shouldn't we? After all, some have businesses/employees whose livelihood relies on it, just as Epson does. If you don't understand this, maybe you are (in your own words) "just too dumb for this list." Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: D. L. Feinberg <donf@CYBERNEX.NET> (with snips) > You know, you folks can bash Epson all you want. And, maybe they're due a > bashing. I don't know. > I am insecure enough to make DAMNED SURE that each and > every component of every system I design and produce is exactly as I specify > it from start to finish or I **will know** why they don't. > Not only that. I'm personally responsible for the livelihood of a bunch of other people. I guess I'm just too dumb for this list. - Please turn off HTML mail features. Keep quoted material short. Use accurate subject lines. http://www.leben.com/lists for instructions.
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